Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ebony Ayes

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. —Quarl (talk) 2007-03-18 09:23Z

[edit] Ebony Ayes

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Non-notable per WP:BIO. Delete. Joie de Vivre 20:20, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Weak delete She kind of meets WP:PORNBIO due to the number of films. Dismas|(talk) 20:34, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. Clearly meets WP:PORNBIO; very popular porn star from the 1980s and early 1990s. Even people voting "delete" are admitting she meets WP:PORNBIO, which is beyond silly. Xihr 21:16, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep She definitely seems to be notable under WP:PORNBIO. Pretty big name and prolific in porn films, especially African-American ones, in her time. The problem with the article appears to be that she seems to have kept herself private (ironic as that sounds), and no one seems to know anything about her other than her stage name and what films she was in. There doesn't seem to be anything else known, and that can be sourced, to report. Since the article is a year and a half old, I don't guess there's much reason to think that situation will change. But still, I don't know that there's a specific minimum length that a porn start bio article has to be. So since she is in fact notable, I guess I'd go with keeping it. Mwelch 21:16, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete The only parameter under which she qualifies on WP:PORNBIO is number of films. She clearly has made a lot, but so do many other porn actors. The qualification for this parameter uses the word "prolific", which is undefined. I am willing to be persuaded; given that for a porn flick all you need is a partner, a bed, some lights and a camera is 159 movies prolific? If it is I will reverse my opinion.--Anthony.bradbury 21:35, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep However, the article should be labeled a "stub". Neitherday 21:43, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete May satisfy shortcuts to notability in the disputed WP:PORNBIO but does not meet WP:ATT WP:BIO or WP:N. Edison 22:02, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep clearly meets WP:PORNBIO. We're done here. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 23:35, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Clearly passes WP:ATT, WP:BIO and WP:N. Three reliable secondary sources, passing attribution. "A person is notable if he or she has been the subject of secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject" passing Notability (people). Also passes extra criteria for Entertainers ("Entertainers: actors, comedians, opinion makers, and television personalities who have appeared in well-known films or television productions. Notability can be determined by: Multiple features in credible magazines and newspapers, A large fan base, fan listing, or "cult" following, A credible independent biography, Wide name recognition...") Plus highly prolific-- over 100 films. The article needs work, and should be labeled a stub, but it's a clear keep. Dekkappai 23:37, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment Also-- The fact that she has articles at three other Wikipedias should speak for her international notability as well. Removing an article on a U.S. subject from the English Wikipedia while it exists in three other languages would be highly questionable. Dekkappai 23:52, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been added to the list of Porn star deletions. Dekkappai 23:41, 14 March 2007 (UTC) (UTC)
  • Keep She meets WP:PORNBIO. I've heard of her even though I don't follow porn. Chyel 00:51, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep well-known performer with extensive film credits. i agree that the stub template could be attached, but there's no reason to delete. --Hexvoodoo 01:29, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Satisfies WP:PORNBIO criteria number 4. She was one of the most notable and prolific performers of the 1980s within the big-bust genre. Epbr123 02:26, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. More than satisfied WP:PORNBIO which people should be reminded is not official policy. 23skidoo 05:15, 15 March 2007 (UTC)


NO CONTENT should be erased unless they violate law. Child porn, beastiality etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChrisZeddybear (talk • contribs)

What are you talking about?!? Dismas|(talk) 22:41, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.