Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eagle (fictional U.S. state)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 10:44, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Eagle (fictional U.S. state)
Mostly original research, no out-of-universe notability. ShadowHalo 17:29, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete and merge whatever can be sourced into List of fictional U.S. states. PubliusFL 17:34, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- It looks like all the non-OR is already there. "Eagle State is the state in which Fairview, the primary place of action for the ABC television series Desperate Housewives, is located. Its exact location is not known." ShadowHalo 17:36, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- I know, that was a pre-emptive strike in case someone comes back and says "look, this source says that license plates in Desperate Housewives say 'Eagle State'!" ;-) PubliusFL 17:58, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- It looks like all the non-OR is already there. "Eagle State is the state in which Fairview, the primary place of action for the ABC television series Desperate Housewives, is located. Its exact location is not known." ShadowHalo 17:36, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. ⇒ SWATJester On Belay! 17:38, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per above. Current articles exist where this information is pertinent, this is nothing that will or can ever be improved above a stub, that would put paid to that. RGTraynor 20:26, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete for reasons above, esp as all the non-OR is already at List of fictional states. Cricketgirl 22:43, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and unnecessary. — Wenli 22:48, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- Redirect either to List of fictional U.S. states or Desperate Housewives (which should also have the information there, if it isn't already). FrozenPurpleCube 23:31, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- Comment I don't think many people are likely to type in "Eagle (fictional U.S. state)", but if this is deleted Eagle State (currently a redirect to this article) should definitely be redirected to one of the two articles you mention. That's something people are likely to search for. PubliusFL 23:40, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- Never can tell what people will type, and redirects are cheap. And yes Eagle State should also be changed. FrozenPurpleCube 23:43, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- Redirect to Desperate Housewives. Not original research per IMDB, otherwise delete category:Fictional U.S. states because if there will be no articles for the fictional states then the category is not necessary. --FateClub 23:49, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, we know that the name of the state is Eagle. But this is still OR: "The state's name is likely born out of not wanting to use a specific state or in order to not have blank license plates, like many movies and TV shows tend to do." ShadowHalo 01:00, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- Then adding a {{fact}} wherever it is appropriate would be of more benefit rather than deleting the entire article. How is it supposed to grow or to be improved if whatever portion that does not fit the guidelines cause the article to be deleted. --FateClub 01:11, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- Because there's no evidence of any non-trivial coverage (stating that Eagle is the name of the state is trivial) or out-of-universe notability. If an article can't demonstrate this, then there's no reason for it to exist. ShadowHalo 01:13, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- Which would be the case of all but 2 articles (Houston and Springfield) in the category:Fictional U.S. states and most of if not all future inclusions. --FateClub 01:23, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- Please see Wikipedia:Pokémon test. If other articles don't meet notability guidelines, then they should be deleted, not used as a reason to keep other articles that don't meet notability guidelines. ShadowHalo 01:28, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- I see your point, I am changing my opinion to redirect. Cheers, --FateClub 01:37, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- Please see Wikipedia:Pokémon test. If other articles don't meet notability guidelines, then they should be deleted, not used as a reason to keep other articles that don't meet notability guidelines. ShadowHalo 01:28, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- Which would be the case of all but 2 articles (Houston and Springfield) in the category:Fictional U.S. states and most of if not all future inclusions. --FateClub 01:23, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- Because there's no evidence of any non-trivial coverage (stating that Eagle is the name of the state is trivial) or out-of-universe notability. If an article can't demonstrate this, then there's no reason for it to exist. ShadowHalo 01:13, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- Then adding a {{fact}} wherever it is appropriate would be of more benefit rather than deleting the entire article. How is it supposed to grow or to be improved if whatever portion that does not fit the guidelines cause the article to be deleted. --FateClub 01:11, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, we know that the name of the state is Eagle. But this is still OR: "The state's name is likely born out of not wanting to use a specific state or in order to not have blank license plates, like many movies and TV shows tend to do." ShadowHalo 01:00, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. Fictional state. Herostratus 16:46, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. We already have List of fictional U.S. states (sorry for the WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS reference.) contygugsa295talk 05:26, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.