Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/E. Upton and Sons

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Hopefully sources will follow.--Kubigula (talk) 03:03, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] E. Upton and Sons

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Orphan article on seemingly non notable department store chain. "E. Upton and Sons" on Google turns up nothing but this article. Fails WP:RS, WP:V. Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 16:55, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Clearly a bogus A7 - removed. The speedy criteria are hard and don't stretch - please take more care with these. (This is becoming a matter of public concern and PR problems, so a few people are looking at all CSDs and particularly A7s lately.) If in ANY doubt, it goes to AFD. Which is why we are here - David Gerard 17:33, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
  • The article is notable. its a part of intl retail history. Just becuz Google doesnt yield something, doesnt mean this article is NOT valuable. Doesnt that mean Wikipedia has one up on Google? The point Wikipedia is not for a few control-dizzy users to delete articles. Its to expand the knowlege base that is available to Wikiusers. Lets Keep it! john 20:08, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep probably notable if sources are found. Should be possible. Newspapers did exist in the 20th century.DGG (talk) 20:57, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
  • I would think that if the company survived into the 21st century, that at least one online source would verify it. Even just "Upton and Sons" turns up only a publishing company. Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 21:37, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Keep - certainly notable as a regional chain of stores, although the frequent changes of name and various ways you can format a name like E Upton & Sons doesn't help. I'd guess Googling Upton Middlesbrough -"Upton Park" should turn up something, or Google Upton & Southern which was the name of the holding company for a while. Citywire noted the sale of the stores by Upton & Southern. I've invited WikiProject North East England to contribute to the article. FlagSteward 23:46, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.