Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dystopia (computer game) (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was withdrawn due to new information. Wickethewok 18:36, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dystopia (computer game)

Doesn't seem to meet verifiability or reliable sources. Was previously nom'd before, which triggered massive sockpuppetry. There have been no attempts to make the article compliant with verifiability policies since. If there are reliable sources (which I haven't found), the article makes no mention of them. Wickethewok 20:54, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Keep Previous result was keep, after discounting sock-puppetry. Not much has changed since. If the nominator feels that the article has portions that are unverified, then the nominator should edit them to resolve these issues. However, the topic itself was determined to be notable enough for an article. -Harmil 21:38, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• I'm saying that it isn't verifiable through reliable sources, which is cause for deletion. Please prove me wrong. The first paragraph of WP:V#Burden_of_evidence makes this quite clear. Wickethewok 22:17, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• I don't really understand what you're saying is unverifiable? In case it was the download count, I've gone through the sites which have download counts shown and used this as the new number. Can you please be more specific about exact what parts of the page you consider to be not verifiable through reliable sources? (full disclosure; I'm the project manager for Dystopia. This is also the first edits I've ever done to the Dystopia entry) Fuzzwah 05:28, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

• Keep mod has won an independant awards. Something not many mods do Mitaphane _talk 04:04, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep - The game has won multiple awards, is extremely notable, and are rumoured to be in talks with Valve regarding distribution and developing it as a stand alone game (much like The Ship) The Kinslayer 07:56, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment - The article hadn't even been tagged with the {sources} tag, which would probably have elicited a more prompt correction to the article. I can easily provide links to the awards it's won, proving it's notability (as indeed Mitaphane has done.) The Kinslayer 09:39, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - This is a mod which has won non-trivial awards like the IGF prize. This isn't some random online poll crap like the WCCA. - Hahnchen 23:56, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - We've been through this before and it was kept, why would it be on trial again? - Cyanyde 20:30, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Kinslayer and Hahnchen. Nufy8 19:24, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - What do you claim is not verifiable, and which warrants the article deletion? I only see one 'citation needed' tag on this article. Do you really think this mod doesn't exist? --Aim Here 01:46, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

• Comment - Is it possible to protect this article from further AfD noms? I believe we've proven beyond reasonable doubt that Dystopia is notable, verifiable and worthy of inclusion here. (To be honest I'm still not sure why it was nom'd in the first place!) The Kinslayer 10:14, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

• No, however articles that have been nominated and been kept are less likely to be deleted or nominated for deletion in the future. Wickethewok 18:36, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.