Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Drum! Magazine

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete as unsourced. I'm quite certain this magazine is notable as it comes up first in a Google search for drum, but the article as is doesn't even assert notability. This means there is no prejudice against creation of a sourced article on the magazine. ~ trialsanderrors 08:53, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Drum! Magazine

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Almost no information has been put into this article. All I can get is that there is a magazine that currently exists, that caters to drummers. I don't think that this article would be going anywhere seeing that it was tagged with importance since June. Also, the only reference there is in the article is the magazine's web site. The Wikipedia article comes up 4th when you google it. I say Delete. Diez2 14:36, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete I see little reson to keep it here unless more infomation is discovered on it. Jamesbuc
• Delete - Unless serious content is added. Very little or no information of use. Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 14:50, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - if it turns out this is a notable publication and someone wants to write a proper article on it, they would be free to start a new article. WJBscribe 20:25, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Notable magazine found at just every sizable bookstore (Barnes & Noble, Borders, etc.), probably the biggest percussion magazine worldwide. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 22:06, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
• Stong Keep per Andrew Lenahan. Very important musicians magazine. Every drummer has had or currently has a copy of this. --Oakshade 00:00, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

• Comment If so why isnt there more infomation on the subject on the wiki page? Jamesbuc

• Same answer for alot of stubs. Sometimes editors very familiar very the subjects haven't gotten around to expanding. Recently I saved the article for very popular novelist Anne Stuart from beeing speedied. At the time it was only one sentence [1]. Can't really explain it, but it was a notable subject that hardly had any info written about it. --Oakshade 07:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

• Yes but we are saying that unless more infomation is placed down about the magazine it will more than likely be deleted. Also even in the article there is a comment that is a little POV ('Drum features many intresting sections' is a POV). If the article is going to stay then it should be cleaned up and given more infomation! Jamesbuc

• Calm down. No need to yell. --Oakshade 08:00, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

• Ooops sorry about that. I went OTT then but do you see where I am getting at? Jamesbuc

• I'm not finding the magazine's history anywhere on the net nor any article about the magazine (magazines or newspapers writing about other magazines is not common), but I know it's notable. It's been the primary periodical for dummers for decades. Go into any Barnes & Noble or Borders and you'll see it. If this gets deleted because nobody with knowledge of its specific history adds information and if as of now it doesn't follow strict WP:CORP guildlines, then we're letting a notable entity get deleted. --Oakshade 16:47, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

• If it is so noticable than shouldnt there be more content about it on the web? Jamesbuc

• I don't know. Like I said, magazines and newspapers writing about other magazines is not common. If that's the barameter for inclusion, then we're letting something notable get deleted. --Oakshade 17:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

• It may have been referenced, but as you say that you dont know means there isnt much evidence of any infomation. If there was even a picture it could stand on better grounds than it is at this current moment. Jamesbuc

• I suppose I can hack one of the covers from the website [2] and it will be up for a few days before it gets deleted for copywrite violations, but I don't want to operate in that way. --Oakshade 21:11, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

• Comment - Going against what I like doing, I went ahead and grabbed a cover image using Fair Use licensing. It might get deleted. --Oakshade 08:50, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per above. --MaNeMeBasat 16:16, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.