Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Drew Doughty

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Neıl ☎ 10:45, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Drew Doughty

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Non-notable junior player who does not meet notability requirements per WP:N because he has not played professionally yet. Nor has he won any major individual awards or had any other honours that might indicate notability. Can be readded when and if he ever plays professionally. Djsasso (talk) 23:05, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Hockey-related deletion discussions. —Djsasso (talk) 23:07, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
• Comment. He played with the Canadian World Juniors, which is pretty remarkable and is currently a top prospect. Here's a Guelph Mercury article from 2006 about him. If there are more sources, I would say keep, but for now, delete and wait until he gets drafted this summer.-Wafulz (talk) 23:21, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Actually I'm changing to keep after finding this national source.-Wafulz (talk) 23:23, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
    • Comment No doubt that the national junior team is remarkable. But many players who have played on the team over the years are not noteworthy enough for an article yet. In fact one of the more dominant players on the same team as Doughty just was deleted through afd recently. Comes down to it not being the top amateur level of competition. Once he is drafted in the first round or plays pro or earns notability through an award or some such then I have no problem with him coming back. -Djsasso (talk) 23:27, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
• Keep He is a top prospect for the 2008 draft. He is currently projected to go in the top three. I have added a couple of sources for this in the article. -- JamesTeterenko (talk) 00:43, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
• Delete Weak Delete though he is a top ranked prospect, he is not the top ranked prospect. And as stated, he hasn't won any awards or played professionally. Being on the Canadian junior team isn't enough. Kaiser matias (talk) 06:22, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Was not aware he won best defenceman at the World Juniors. Still feel article should be deleted, but less so. Kaiser matias (talk) 22:50, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

• Comment Note that Doughty was named the best defenceman in the World Juniors. Winning this over players such as Karl Alzner, Jonathon Blum, Ian Cole, Robert Sanguinetti, & Thomas Hickey is an incredible achievement. These players are all older and have already been drafted in the first round of the NHL Entry Draft. -- JamesTeterenko (talk) 18:17, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
• Weak keep. Won a major award at a major international tournament, and is rated as a top-five pick at the 2008 NHL Entry Draft. This article will be recreated anyway in June when he is officially selected high in the first round, so I really don't see great reason to delete it now. Resolute 19:39, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
• Keep. Per Resolute. Patken4 (talk) 22:06, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
• Keep - He's a sure fire top 5 draft pick this summer. IrisKawling (talk) 22:00, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment Nothing is sure fire. Angelo Esposito was surefire #1 or #2 pick last year and he almost completely dropped out of the first round. -Djsasso (talk) 22:04, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
    • Comment Good point, but he still went in the first round, and his article's creation at about the same relative date as this one was justified. Had he went in the 3rd round or later, I'd say otherwise, but let's face it, the ISS and Central Scouting reports are very accurate these days, and it's highly unlikely that a player will fall from #2 to late stages of the draft in a 6 month period, and thus be unworthy of his own article. IrisKawling (talk) 22:42, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
      • Comment No doubt but Wikipedia is not a crystal ball and generally we only keep junior players who were drafted in the first round or won a major award. That being said I did not realize he was named best defenceman at the juniors so I would let it go based on that. -Djsasso (talk) 22:46, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Delete based on deletion of the Stefan Legein article. Andy Saunders (talk) 23:33, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

• Keep as a top prospect, projected to go in the top 5 in the NHL Entry draft. Not a comparision to Legein as Legein was a 2nd round draft pick. --Pparazorback (talk) 06:36, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

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