Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Drayner

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete discounting new users and anons. Jaranda wat's sup 22:33, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Drayner

The article refers to the "dryaner" dialect spoken in New Jersey, apparently centralized in just one county. The article mentions alot of specific areas, streets, and groups of people, all unsourced, all of that put together makes it sound very unnotable to me. Additionally, none of the 290 unique Google hits seem to have anything to do with the article. I'd say it's a relatively unknown dialect, used by a few people, possibly even as an inside joke? Who knows, whatever it is, it doesn't belong on wikipedia. tmopkisn tlka 02:41, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete per nomination. Fabricationary 02:47, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Nothing else to say, even in Draynish. Ifnord 02:51, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • This article legitimately documents the way younger people in the area speak. It isn't made up, and it isn't a joke. Despite the small scale of the speech (use by maybe a few hundred young people) it still exists. Surely if people can write about all sorts of intricacies concerning Klingons on wikipedia, the way a sizeable portion of youth speak is something worth giving attention? Speedy Keep per nom. Schway Man Dan 10:59, 17 July 2006 (EST)
    • Note: This user account was created today, first edit is to the article, the second is this AFD. --WinHunter (talk) 11:28, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • I live in Paramus, and the young people of the town do have a very unique way of speaking. There was an article about it in the Town News (unfortunately I cannot find any replication of it online) a few weeks ago. It's quite remarkable how fast this dialect has spread. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Britterz7 (talk • contribs)
  • Comment I'd like to note that the last user's only contribution was to this page. Also, in response to your comment, if the only documentation of this dialect was in a local newspaper, it's still not notable enough for wikipedia. tmopkisn tlka 03:11, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Actually, the user has since added two more contributions, one of which was blanking my userpage. Honestly, it's really hard to build credibility when you go around doing things like that. tmopkisn tlka 07:41, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • I concede this article needs to be better documented. I'm new to wikipedia and my intention isn't to hoax anyone or write articles with no purpose. Since I'm from the area I figured that something on the way its residents speak was a good way to start contributing. I will try to document this article in the near future. Schway Man Dan 11:24, 17 July 2006 (EST)
  • Comment - If verifiable sources can be provided for this term, then I expect most people will back keeping this article. Right now, though, the article doesn't provide any sort of sources that make it a verifiable term. -- H·G (words/works) 06:39, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep Needs references but there are thousands of local dialects in use today. --Brad101 04:26, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. And which of these thousands of local dialects have articles on wikipedia? tmopkisn tlka 04:31, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Looks like Original Research that is Unverifiable. -- Fan-1967 04:30, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, unverifiable. --Coredesat talk. o.o;; 05:00, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as possible protologism. Only 300 unique Ghits, most of which don't appear to be relevant to this definition of it. -- H·G (words/works) 06:35, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep if WP:V and WP:RS can be provided, as per HumbleGod's comments. Scorpiondollprincess 16:22, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. SynergeticMaggot 19:05, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep* The dialect is real, and is spoken all around Bergen County.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.188.117.13 (talk • contribs)
  • Strong Delete. Unsourced. Smells like a hoax. -- GWO
  • Delete. Unverifiable, unsourced. Fagstein 17:59, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep- As a resident of said Bergen County, I would also like to make vouches for the fact that your fries are sweaty and your cannons are too. We make hoots and fudds and all sorts of other things. This language is as real as your sister's bhosdi. Furthermore it has been confirmed to be real by a Harvard Scholar or two.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.188.117.13 (talk • contribs)
    • Err... you can't vote twice... then again, you're an AOL IP, so I guess you can do pretty much whatever you want... tmopkisn tlka 05:15, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • STRONG KEEP(MAYBE)It may not be widely spoken now, but as the hundreds of drayner speakers continue to spread the word, going off to college and all, it will become a national trend. When in Washington, DC, some effects of drayner could be heard as a teenager told me he was going to "make fudds" when referencing the restaurant chain. I propose a continuance until we determine whether this is a reasonable dialect.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.163.100.138 (talk • contribs)
    • We can recreate the article then. Fagstein 03:08, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.