Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dragan Nikolić (commander)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Speedy keep per withdrawn nomination, no other delete !votes. -Amarkov blahedits 16:54, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dragan Nikolić (commander)

Dragan Nikolić (commander) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

This article was created by User:Ancient Land of Bosoni (AKA User:Bosoni AKA User:Ancient Bosoni) as part of a wider soapboxing and POV pushing campaign. There are many war criminals from the former Yugoslavia, and this man hasn't done anything to make himself more notable than hundreds of others from all sides of the conflict. - Ivan K 03:34, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Delete - as nominator. - Ivan K 03:34, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Strong Keep (and preserve name Dragan Nikolić (war criminal) - see additional comment and link below) There could be thousands who did what this person did, but the BBC, The Independent and the New York Times times found him notable enough to make him the primary subject of their aritcles.[1][2][3]. I've been noticing other Serbian war criminals up for AfD recently. I really hope this is not part of some POV agenda. --Oakshade 10:25, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Additional comment I see that this is both a naming dispute and an AfD - see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dragan Nikoli%u0107 (war criminal). --Oakshade 10:41, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. Give the statement, "He was the Serb commander of the Susica detention camp near Vlasenica in south-east Bosnia. Following an ICTY trial, he was sentenced to 23 years in prison on 18 December 2003." is referenced, I think this article satisfies WP:N. War criminals are surely notable, even if regrettably numerous. WJBscribe 10:37, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep but i'm not addressing naming convetion dispute. /Blaxthos 15:40, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep, looks like a notable war criminal. JIP | Talk 18:43, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep and rename (war criminal) per linked AfD. Septentrionalis 21:00, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep, but AfD should not be doing anything about the name. Which is fine as it is, anyway. -Amarkov blahedits 21:10, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep while I am sure that there are many war criminals from this conflict, some of whom may not be notable, being a commander of a camp certanly seems to make this one more notable than others. Montco 05:55, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep The United Nations even has a webpage on their site regarding this man and his crimes. LastChanceToBe 06:11, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep - meets WP:V and WP:RS. POV disoutes are outside of AFD. -- Whpq 16:39, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, when I nominated this article, there were weren't a lot of references in the article, so I thought it was just part of User:Ancient Land of Bosoni's soapboxing, but now I think it should not be deleted. Four other articles created by him were nominated and subsequently deleted ([4], [5], [6], [7]) so I just thought this article was just like those four. So anyway, how do I withraw this nomination; or can't that be done? - Ivan K08:35, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

    • You just need to say that you no longer think it should be deleted, maybe striking the nomination out. I'm closing it, since you seem to want to withdraw it. -Amarkov blahedits 16:54, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep obviously. The two articles should be merged obviously but I very much object to the title Dragan Nikolić (war criminal) which is as point of view a title as one can imagine. Of course he is a war criminal but it's still a POV title. Pascal.Tesson 16:28, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.