Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dr. Mary Albright

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No consensus --JForget 02:17, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dr. Mary Albright

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This is a non-notable character that does not have real world information to establish notability. It is currently covered in the main article, and there is no current assertion for improvement. TTN (talk) 19:21, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

• Keep As I pointed out in the Harry Solomon AfD, these characters are notable. Another analogy if you will, if TTN has his way, Newman from Seinfeld would be a non-notable character...as would Wilson from Home Improvement. These articles were undergoing improvements (like all 3rd Rock from the Sun), however, this has had to be put on hold to combat the constant POV agenda and vandal edits by TTN with his urgency to delete. Without constant redirecting or deleting of the articles, the 3rd Rock from the Sun articles will be improved upon and developed. Mary Albright was one of the major characters in the sitcom. --Maniwar (talk) 20:31, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
• delete Maniwar, if you have some assertion of notability I'd be willing to change my mind, but the wp:FICT guidelines require real-world importance, as well as reliable out-of-universe sources for their notability. I'm undecided how I feel about current episode, character and other fictional object 'cleanups' but in many cases I just don't see enough reliable information that relates to the real world to make a valid article, such as this one. 129.89.68.218 (talk) 20:41, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
• Merge/Redirect to 3rd Rock from the Sun. Unsourced article falls well short of WP:FICT. RMHED (talk) 01:01, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per Seinfeld analogy above. JJL (talk) 01:38, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
• Keep As with Harry Solomon, real-world info does exist. If someone wants to improve the article, here are a couple of newspaper articles that provide some substantial behind-the-scenes info (there are probably others, but I have more AFDs to get to):

• Peter Marks. "Curtin closes another hit season on '3rd Rock'". Boston Herald. 18 May 1997.
• John Crook. "LITHGOW AND CURTIN STAR IN QUIRKY NBC SITCOM". The Stuart (Fla) News. 7 January 1996. Zagalejo^^^ 01:40, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

• Delete & redirect to main series article. Wikipedia is not a fansite. Real world information is a core principle and we have policies that determine this. And trivial mention in a newspaper review does not constitute the assertion of real-world notability. Eusebeus 20:32, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

• Do you have access to those articles? They do not simply contain "trivial mentions" of the character. Zagalejo^^^ 20:38, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

• Keep Major character in a popular series, satisfies the Wikipedia:Notability standard. Alansohn 21:16, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Article is wholly an in-universe plot description with no real-world notability. — pd_THOR ^{| =/\=} | 21:43, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
• Comment I've added some real-world info to the article. Zagalejo^^^ 08:56, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.