Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Don Snow aka Jonn Savannah

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete all, sources concern weren't met in the AFD. This is a Secret account 02:23, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Don Snow aka Jonn Savannah

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Included in this nomination:

Both of these articles are highly non-neutral articles that do not establish how these artists are notable outside of their memberships in their associated bands. Neither offer any references to this effect (other than Snow's own website), and a quick search on Google (admittedly not too detailed) didn't turn much up either. I recommend that each of these pages is redirected to The Sinceros, as that appears to be the most notable band that each of these artists stuck with the longest. (Snow is reported in the article to have also toured with Squeeze, whose article confirms this, but it appears to have been a lesser involvement than he had with The Sinceros.)
Summary: Non-notable outside bands, non-neutral, unreferenced, so redirect to The Sinceros. Hersfold (t/a/c) 17:41, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Weak keep Maybe a slightly borderline case, but I'd say all of the above seem notable. If they were notable for involvement with only one band, I'd say a merge might be in order, but that isn't the case here. They definitely need cleanup and de-POV though. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 18:03, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete as non-notable per WP:MUSIC, no references per WP:V, and reading as vanity spam. Fails WP:BLP, no information beyond his career. -- Kesh 23:14, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Note that while notability may be an issue here, verifiability is not: see this excerpt from the Rolling Stone Encyclopedia, for example. There's also a whole book on Squeeze (Song By Song) which probably has more info. I may or may not have a copy. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 23:42, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
      • Verifiability is still a problem. All that tells us is that he was in Squeeze, and nothing else. That's all we can verify about him at this point, and it appears to be a trivial mention in the book. -- Kesh 19:54, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
  • The pages in question have been cleaned up to reflect the careers with other notable artists. There is still much to add on these pages and new pages on other artists will cross-reference.Swanrizla 05:29, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
    • All you did was add track lists of his albums, and name-drop a few celebrities he's supposed to have performed with (no citations given). I'm afraid that doesn't help. With no verifiable sources, this article is unsubstantiated. -- Kesh 19:52, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, albeit a weak one, per my similarly colored friend providing that reliable sources can and are added to the article(s). Burntsauce 22:42, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Anonymous DissidentTalk 11:11, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Delete - lacks any reliable sources, so fails WP:V. If sourced, the articles would pass WP:MUSIC#Criteria for composers and lyricists 1. "Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a musician or ensemble that qualifies above", as well as WP:MUSIC#Criteria for musicians and ensembles 6. "Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable", and I would change to a keep. dissolvetalk 20:15, 4 November 2007 (UTC)


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