Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dirck Tulp

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Withdrawn by nominator. ELIMINATORJR TALK 17:21, 23 July 2007 (UTC) Template:Afd bottom

[edit] Dirck Tulp

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Contested speedy. An article translated from the Dutch wiki, but I can't see how this person is individually notable, except as a relative of someone else, or through marriage. ELIMINATORJR TALK 14:25, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Keep - also notable figure in Dutch politics himself, in relations to the English court, and in being the last in a line. Entirely sourced from Dutch wiki for now, but looking up some more on him to boost its notability. Neddyseagoon - talk 14:28, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep - sheesh - give editors a few minutes before unleashing a barrage of tags. Addhoc 14:30, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment you miss the point - the article was translated from the Dutch wiki - it's not a new article. I read it through, couldn't see any notability, so tagged it. However I contacted the author (not via template) and based on his reply I moved it here from CSD to give some time to show notability. If there is some, then that's fine. ELIMINATORJR TALK 14:38, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment You read completely through the article, researched it, and tagged it all in under 1 minute? --sumnjim talk with me·changes 15:42, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment CSD A7 - "Article about a person, group, company, or web content that does not assert the importance of the subject.". The article certainly didn't assert any notability (indeed, most of it is not about the subject himself) but as I said because of the amount of possible notability, I brought it here instead. ELIMINATORJR TALK 15:54, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Though there is plenty of stuff in the article about himself, too. Neddyseagoon - talk 15:59, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment It tells us a little about his life, yes, but most of it is about his other family and his Potter portrait. I've tried to do a little digging myself, but without much success. Indeed, a Google search for his name, subtracting Wiki-mirrors and references to his portrait, left me with only 2 hits (though obviously there will probably be more Dutch language references). As I said though, the AfD will run for five days to help unearth any other, perhaps non-Internet references. (By the way, the spelling Dirk Tulp appears to be used interchangeably on websites of all languages, though this also confuses things as there appears to be another Dirk Tulp who also had his portrait painted, this time by Dupont [1])ELIMINATORJR TALK 16:04, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. Prime encyclopedia fodder. —Xezbeth 16:24, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, first question is how can some one be notable in Dutch Wiki and not be in English Wiki? If a person is notable in one language of wiki he is notable in all wiki's. I find this person notable. Callelinea 16:50, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep sufficient text and importance in his day to show notability. Arnoutf 16:55, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, sufficient statements of notability made in article. If some Dutch-speaking Wikipedians could add more refs, that'd be nice. Ten Pound Hammer • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 17:15, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Before it snows, I'll withdraw this, though I'm still less than convinced :) ELIMINATORJR TALK 17:21, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.