Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dignity (Hilary Duff song)

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The result was KEEP (no consensus). TigerShark (talk) 22:58, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dignity (Hilary Duff song)

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Not released as a single or not notable in any other way than an album track, and this information can probably be merged into the Dignity article. Surfer-boy94 (talk) 06:57, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

• Keep. The song has been the subject of media coverage independent of the album, and the article includes information about this. I didn't reference every source that discusses the song in this way, but if for any reason the sources already present in the article don't satisfy Wikipedia:Notability—"significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject"—there are more available via, for example, LexisNexis. The article's content was split from Dignity (album) because the information about it in that article was becoming too specific to the song to be appropriate for inclusion in an album article. The Dignity article is substantially longer now than it was when the "Dignity" song article and Gypsy Woman (Hilary Duff song) were split off from it. Also, Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Albums and songs states, "A separate [song] article is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; permanent stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album." I'm not sure how "reasonably detailed" is defined, but I'm pretty certain that the article isn't a stub. In any case, AFD is for proposals for deletion, not merging—if you think the article should be merged somewhere, please follow the instructions at Help:Merging and moving pages#Proposing a merger. Extraordinary Machine (talk) 23:45, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

• This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 15:04, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

• Merge Both this and Gypsy Woman (Hilary Duff song) could easily be included under one section in the main album article. --neonwhite user page talk 16:42, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
• Merge As per my !vote on Gypsy Woman (Hilary Duff song), the only difference here is that this song is in fact about Ritchie to some degree, though not specifically to the Duff/Madden/Ritchie triangle. Regardless, both of these articles could be much stronger as subsections of Dignity (album). In fact, much of this article is already covered in Dignity (album)#Style and themes, and Dignity (album)#Critical reception -- RoninBK _{T C} 23:36, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
• Keep : per Extraordinary Machine. Europe22 (talk) 11:17, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
• Keep, there's enough to say here to support an independent article, and the Dignity album article is already packed at 50KB (which means, if anything, that more stuff should be split from it; other articles should certainly not be merged into such a long article). Everyking (talk) 03:00, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.