Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Diet of Worms (Medicine)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Not delete. Basically, there seems to be a consensus to keep before the relist, and redirect after the relist. A keep vs. redirect debate is a debate that be held outside of AfD. Deathphoenix ʕ 13:52, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Diet of Worms (Medicine)

Delete as Neologism or edit/merge with Whipworm and Helminthic therapy. Cannot find any evidence on google that this term is in common or specialized usage to describe this medical treatment. Only usage is in punning news headlines - the phrase almost always appears only in the "eye catching" headlines not in the article text. If evidence can be found that this phrase is in common ordinary usage by doctors/patients to describe this treatment, than it should be kept. Otherwise delete as neologism (and barely one at that - the news articles are using the phrase for a funny headline, and never claim its a new phrase. neologism is by the wiki user who created the article.). For the medical info in the text, this could be merged with the Whipworm and Helminthic therapy articles already mentions the treatment. I am not suggesting that this treatment doesnt exist, I'm saying that the usage of this phrase in a common way doesnt exist. Bwithh 21:19, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

• Keep: This information was just placed on the Diet of Worms page, a page that is constantly vandalized with a poor joke that I'm sure you can imagine. I created this page because it appears to be a legit treatment and I want to prevent constant posting of this stuff in the historical article. See the disambig page as well. Let's give it time to see if some more info can be found on it. --CTSWyneken 21:23, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm not suggesting that the treatment doesn't exist, I'm saying that "Diet of Worms" needs to shown to be a phrase that is commonly used to refer to the treatment. Don't give in to constant vandalism / misguided editing - that shouldnt be a reason for keeping this article. A rash of punning newspaper headlines (mainly regurgitations of the one New Scientist magazine headline) are not enough to show common usage. I see now that the treatment is already mentioned in Whipworm and Helminthic therapy. Any new medical info should be moved to these articles Bwithh 21:42, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. as per CTSWyneken above. --Drboisclair 21:40, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. I'm the person who put it in the Diet of Worms article, because I thought it was topical, but if there is already an article on Helminthic therapy, the disambiguation page for Diet of Worms should point there. --Chris Thompson 22:19, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. I just deleted it from the Diet of Worms article because the Disambig page works just fine for that 0.005% of people who come to Diet of Worms looking for Helminthic therapy and its integration into that article was both highly off-topic and redundant with this article. Furthermore, if there is a more detailed article using an actual scientific term for that approach, I would suggest having the Diet of Worms (Medicine) deleted and the Diet of Worms (disambiguation) point to Helminthic therapy. Isoxyl 22:34, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

• Keep.--Jondel 07:32, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. per above. --StanZegel (talk) 15:13, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
• Query Can this afd be relisted for further debate? thanks Bwithh 22:08, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

  Answer Yes it can. Prodego ^talk 22:10, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Disamb page should point to Helminthic therapy per Bwithh and Isoxyl. -Medtopic 22:42, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. JFW | T@lk 01:07, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect to Helminthic therapy. Eluchil404 01:00, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect to Helminthic therapy. Diet of worms is by no means the common name for Trichuris suis based therapy -- Samir धर्म 14:40, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: If there is a redirect in place, I'm comfortable with the article being deleted. Aa long as there's no serious threat of someone putting yet one more diet of worms pun in the article. ;-) --CTSWyneken 15:24, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect to Helminthic therapy or merge into inflammatory bowel disease. The treatment appears to be a topic that is generating a fair amount of attention based on the fact that there are numberous publications in medical journals. Here are just a few-- to demonstrate it isn't an internet hoax: Kradin RL, Badizadegan K, Auluck P, Korzenik J, Lauwers GY. Iatrogenic Trichuris suis infection in a patient with Crohn disease. Arch Pathol Lab Med. 2006 May;130(5):718-20. PMID 16683891. / Summers RW, Elliott DE, Weinstock JV. Is there a role for helminths in the therapy of inflammatory bowel disease? Nat Clin Pract Gastroenterol Hepatol. 2005 Feb;2(2):62-3. No abstract available. PMID 16265104 / Yuan Q, Walker WA. Worm therapy for ulcerative colitis: a possible link to regulatory T cells. J Pediatr Gastroenterol Nutr. 2005 Jul;41(1):139-40. PMID 15990650. / Parthasarathy G, Mansfield LS. Trichuris suis excretory secretory products (ESP) elicit interleukin-6 (IL-6) and IL-10 secretion from intestinal epithelial cells (IPEC-1). Vet Parasitol. 2005 Aug 10;131(3-4):317-24. PMID 15978725. Also, it should be pointed out that the name of the article is misleading-- worms are a treatment... they aren't a diet. Diet and treatment are not the same thing. Nephron  T|C 00:21, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect and merge to Helminthic therapy, as that seems to be the more official and widely used name. ENpeeOHvee 22:53, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.