Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dick Hillis

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[edit] Dick Hillis

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Delete WP:BIO Doesn't seem to be a significant author or missionary. TonyTheTiger 18:33, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

• Weak keep - the claim that he has authored "several books" would be evidence of notability, but more evidence of third-party coverage is needed. Walton monarchist89 19:36, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
• weak keep for now, but this has to evolve in the time to come. Arnoutf 19:48, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete -- just one or two vanity press books and no attention to them from independent sources. Sdedeo (tips) 21:44, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
• Comment has anybody checked Steel In His Soul, by Jan Winebrenner, 1996, WinePress Publishing ? Maybe there is something there. I am pretty far away from a good library at this point Alf photoman 00:01, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

WinePress Publishing is a vanity press (i.e., pay them and they'll publish your book.) Sdedeo (tips) 04:05, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Do NOT Delete

• Comment - I am new to this - I created this page as a work in progress.... I have just added numerous works (14) that he has written - and I will research more. Also, I intend to add more about his life and ministry. He is was a missionary statesman - and is widely known and quoted throughout the Christian world. DaveDV 20:24, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Dave -- what you need to do is provide independent sources establishing notability -- e.g., reviews of his books in major newspapers, or non-trivial news coverage of Dick in general. Sdedeo (tips) 22:24, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

I will look for this - help me to understand why this is necessary since his most significant role was not as an author, but as a missionary, professor, and founder of a world-wide missions organization.DaveDV 04:28, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

CommentWikipedia is a tertiary source. It does not judge which primary sources are important. It reports that secondary sources have cited primary sources as important. With this in mind you have to establish that in one of his roles experts consider him notable. Report that here in WP. TonyTheTiger 20:09, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

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