Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dexdexter

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was KEEP. -Splash^talk 22:10, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dex Dexter (band)

Was tagged for speedy deletion by ^demon as nn-band, but article states they were signed to Trade2/Island Records, which is a notable label. They have an AllMusic entry for one EP, so I don't think they qualify under WP:MUSIC. If the consensus is to keep, then the article should be moved to Dex Dexter (band). howcheng {chat} 17:42, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

• Weak keep They made the cover of Melody Maker and were signed to a famous label, although it would seem they bombed after that. (A quick Google search reveals). --kingboyk 17:54, 5 January 2006 (UTC) Strike --kingboyk 11:38, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keeping with my original tag, so delete. However, I think CSD should be expanded so bands that fail WP:MUSIC can be deleted outright. It would save a lot of these CSD->AFD moves for bands. But that's just my 0.02USD. -^demon 17:56, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Comment NN bands can now be speedily deleted, if that's what you're saying (see the top of this very page). I think the point here is that they have a claim to notability because they're in AMG and were on a famous label. --kingboyk 18:06, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Comment. I understand, but I still think CSD is too restrictive, nonetheless. --^demon 18:25, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

It was actually a tough fight just to expand A7 from a single person to persons. I don't think we'll ever get a speedy criterion for bands who don't meet WP:MUSIC, and we actually shouldn't, as a) those are guidelines and not policy and b) there are some bands who cannot meet them due to the nature of the band (see Ghost Mice for example, who are inherently never going to meet the criteria but are notable nonetheless). howcheng {chat} 07:36, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Comment. I understand, it's just frustrating that sometimes we MUST bring things to AfD, due to policy. My opinion is that if it would draw a general consensus of delete, then AfD should be avoided. That's why I hate the "claim of notability" part, as almost every band and most people make a claim to notability, unfounded or not. --^demon 11:16, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

• keep as per kingboyk 80.177.152.156 18:12, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
• Weak delete, per WP:NMG. PJM 18:23, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Needs to be cleaned up. Move to Dex Dexter (band) as per ng. Atrian 18:58, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. If they claim notability you can't speedy. Which is stupid because most of them do. NN-Band. Dan 23:27, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Actually, many don't, because people don't read the links we give them. Since the expansion of A7, I have personally speedied a ton of nn-band articles that would have previously made it to AfD. howcheng {chat} 07:36, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
• Comment Can we just be clear here: they made the cover of Melody Maker, a very famous national music weekly in the UK (WP:NMG cannot apply: "Has been prominently featured in any major music media."). They are listed on AMG and they had a record deal with a well known label. This isn't a bedroom DJ or a high school band; let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater! --kingboyk 05:04, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.