Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Deputy James Mee

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The result was Merge and redirect. Xoloz 17:46, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deputy James Mee

I am surprised this didn't happen sooner.

This is guy is notable why?? --Tom 20:00, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

• Comment If there's an article on this guy, someone must have also created one on the female deputy. Might want to target that one, too. Fan-1967 20:03, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

You mean sugar tits?? IAM KIDDING I AM KIDDING!! Wouldn't surprise me--Tom 20:06, 9 August 2006 (UTC)...

• You, know, I actually typed that, but thought better of it. (My wife told me what would happen if I ever called her that.) Fan-1967 20:10, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
• This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT 11:03, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

• I really think there is no point in having a page about the arresting officer.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.100.47.204 (talk • contribs)
• Weak Keep per WP:BIO "Persons achieving renown or notoriety for their involvement in newsworthy events." He scores 111,000 Google hits. It appears he meets criteria, it appears to be a newsworthy event. However, it also may seem logical to merge this to the events article. --Porqin 12:20, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

• Comment The guidline says "in newsworthy events". It does not say "in a newsworthy event". Fan-1967 13:53, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

• Comment I don't think it is fair to assume that it reads as only more than one event. --Porqin 14:46, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

• Keep - the guy gets 1100 Google News hits. I'm not sure Socrates would ... WilyD 12:58, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect, as his only notability is in the context of the Mel Gibson DUI incident, and thus should be included there. --Kinu ^t/_c 13:45, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect per Kinu - his notability is by association, the article will never be more than a stub and while he may pass the google test he fails other of the alternative tests of WP:BIO such as Expandability and the 100 year test. Yomangani 13:50, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
• delete and redirect he could go on a game show, or pose in a gay pinup mag, but there's no crystal ball at hand. Bustter 14:21, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete I hate the "google hits" lithmith(sp) test. This is THE perfect example of it NOT working. This guy just HAPPENED to be the guy that busted Gibson, it could have been ANY one of the ??? number(how many LAPD officers are there?) out there. --Tom 14:40, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

• This guy didn't only pass the "google hits" test. He also passed the "Persons achieving renown or notoriety for their involvement in newsworthy events" notability guideline. Also, whether or not some other deputy could have arrested Mel Gibson is irrelevant to the discussion at hand. (Note: The title Deputy is not used by police departments, therefore LAPD wasn't involved in this situation.) --Porqin 15:07, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

As already pointed out, this was ONE event, NOT event(s). Also, deputy, LAPD, Malibu dog catcher, this guy is STILL not notable. Besides being the arresting officer of a famous drunk guy who spewed hate, anything else we should know about this person? Thanks --Tom 13:27, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

• Merge - He paththed the tethtth, but if there is nothing more to be added to hith biography (and there might not be) then there ith no reason it could not be merged into elthwhere. And nobody lithpth ath bad ath I uthed to. Badbilltucker 17:14, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
• Merge. Not enough independent notability to be placed separate from Mel Gibson article.  Cdcon  17:50, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
• Merge to Mel Gibson DUI incident -- he may be involved in newsworthy events, but I doubt we'll find anyone coming to Wikipedia for insights on his life & times. — Adrian Lamo ·· 20:52, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
• Merge as per above. --Merovingian - Talk 20:53, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Completely non-notable police officer who happened to arrest a famous person while doing his job. So what? -- Necrothesp 00:25, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

You're arguing whether he merits notability, rather than whether he has notability. He's been the subject of extensive press coverage, regardless of whether he earned it. WilyD 13:24, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

That doesn't make him notable. A police officer may be in the media a lot because he's a spokesman on a major murder case. That doesn't make him notable, just the case he's commenting on. Same here. No reason there shouldn't be a redirect, but he certainly doesn't deserve his own article. -- Necrothesp 14:07, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Police officers involved in incidents like this are common, and soon forgotten. Remember Paul Kramer? I didn't think so. His name isn't even mentioned in the celebrity's article. Fan-1967 14:11, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

In all fairness, the first cultural event I remember is the fall of the Berlin Wall ... but it's beside the point. The assertions that he's not notable are making value judgements about whether all the press coverage gives him merit or merely fame. I'm unwilling to make such a distinction, under WP:NPOV WilyD 15:21, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

All the victims of the World Trade Center bombings or the London Underground bombings have been listed numerous times in the media too (each of the London victims has a whole-page obituary on the BBC News website). The names of all the British and American casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan are listed in the media. Does that mean they should all have articles? All of them? No, of course it doesn't. I fail to see what the difference is here. -- Necrothesp 17:28, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. deputy of police who's just dooin a job. but will be on Mel Gibson's record forever. There are always those who think that a few column inches is worthy of a page in Wiki, but I beg to disagree. Here today, gone tomorrow. not notable [hic]. or merge. or have another whisky ;-) Ohconfucius 13:28, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
• KeepWP:N, WP:NPOV and WP:V what elese you want RaveenS
• Delete can't expand much past Mel incident. The Kids Aren't Alright 13:23, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete and Redirect - I'd say merge, but there's nothing here, so just chuck it. Keppa 04:54, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete; non-notable. —Psychonaut 01:23, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
• Merge; merge with the article about Mel Gibson's DUI incident.
• Keep per Porqin. ⇒ JarlaxleArtemis 01:20, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
• Merge to Mel Gibson DUI incident article. --FlyingPenguins 07:49, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete or merge. Not individually notable. Zaxem 08:33, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Can be recreated when he writes a bestseller "Mel and Mee". JFW | T@lk 12:11, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Notable by association doesn't cut it when this is all there is to make an article. -AED 13:21, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.