Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dede (Indonesian)

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The result was Merge & Redirect to Epidermodysplasia verruciformis. I have merged in a source; others are welcome to extract what is needed / sourced to the target article bearing in mind WP:BLP. Black Kite 20:37, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dede (Indonesian)

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An internet freak show subject. This man is notable only for suffering from Epidermodysplasia verruciformis, no coverage unrelated to this condition. Not quite Brian Peppers but not far off. Guy (Help!) 08:33, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. —Pixelface (talk) 08:58, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
• Comment, I'm unsure about this. I think we should keep this person's privacy in mind, an article about him could affect his life, and we should respect the basic human dignity of this person. I don't think this is quite like Brian Peppers, since apparently Dede is in a circus troupe[1]. This person has been covered by the Discovery Channel, The Daily Telegraph, the Mirror, the Metro, the AFP, and news.com.au — but Wikipedia is not a tabloid. This article may fall under WP:ONEEVENT, namely the cutaneous horns growing on his appendages — which supposedly can be cleared up with Vitamin A and surgery. Maybe merge some of the references into Epidermodysplasia verruciformis? --Pixelface (talk) 09:53, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep, based on all the coverage he's received. --Pixelface (talk) 17:20, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep, because of extensive coverage on from example Discovery Channel, it is likely that people will search on Wikipedia for information. --Reinoutr (talk) 11:28, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
• Weak Keep, I don't think this is quite WP:BLP1E and I don't think it's an internet freak show since he's been covered in multiple reliable sources. People will search for it, but I believe he could also be merged into the disease as one of the sufferers. It's the reliable source coverage that tips it for me TRAVELLINGCARI^{My story}_{Tell me yours} 16:55, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep w/ Stipulations I think the sources easily make this a keep, but I also think that at any time in the future if he or anyone representing him makes a request to have the article removed we should honor those wishes and speedy it.--Torchwood Who? (talk) 18:04, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Indonesia-related deletion discussions. —Pixelface (talk) 18:07, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep, notable medical case. Lots of people might want information on this guy, and (ideally) Wikipedia can present that information without being sensationalistic. Zagalejo^^^ 18:36, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

• So cover it at the disease, not as a pretended biography. Guy (Help!) 14:56, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

• I wouldn't prevent anyone from merging the information, but that wouldn't require AFD. Zagalejo^^^ 17:02, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

• weakest of Delete - Multiple WP:RS and WP:V would tend to cause a Keep... But ... Just like it is encyclopedic to list plant species, we would not list everyone with a Ficus. So to should we list diseases, but not the sufferers. WP:BLP1E Exit2DOS2000^•T•C• 09:13, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
• Merge with Epidermodysplasia verruciformis. It's the only context where it is notable. 86.121.200.139 (talk) 11:11, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
• Move to Half Man Half Tree, rewrite as a summary of the pilot episode of the My Shocking Story episode list, and get to work on the remaining episodes. — CharlotteWebb 18:28, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

• That would work - that or merge to the condition. Anything other than the freakshow, really. We should be above that. Guy (Help!) 19:04, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

• Wouldn't an article titled "Half Man Half Tree" be worse than what we have now? That title would really reduce Dede to a "freakshow". If you're worried about human dignity, I'd go in a different direction. Zagalejo^^^ 22:14, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

• Merge and redirect to Epidermodysplasia verruciformis. He's only notable as an example of that condition, so include him as an example in our article on that condition. It's not as if the article is so large that this needs to be split out of it. -GTBacchus^(talk) 00:22, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.