Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dean Santoro
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Delete --JForget 23:26, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Dean Santoro
Delete or get citations. See WP:BIO. I had previously asked for citations to be placed i article, but the writer ignored the request. It reads like an campaign ad. I am someone that hates AFD's and believe most bio's should be allowed to remain, but since there are no references after being asked to provide some, I decided to nominate for AFD. Callelinea (talk) 19:23, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Even with citations this does not qualify under wp:bio#politicians, the sole notability this article asserts is the fact that he is running for office. The criteria for political inclusion are very liberal, but do state that the subject must have held office barring any other qualifications under wp:bio. I quote:
Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability, although such a person may be notable for other reasons besides their political careers alone."
No assertations of notability, no article. Mstuczynski (talk) 15:47, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
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- The clause you quote does not mean that it is impossible to be notable by reason only of a run for office (several of us are of the view that major party nominees for gubernatorial office, for example, are almost always notable), just that, unlike for people holding national elected office (for example), unsuccessful candidates are not inherently notable - as always, WP:N is the deciding factor. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 05:13, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- In which case the major party candidate would generally qualify under general WP:BIO criteria even if he does not under WP:BIO#POLITICIANS. Mitt Romney when he ran for Governor of Massachusetts being a perfect example for his notability with the Salt Lake City Olympics. My initial statement mentioned that the sole claim of notability in this article would fall under politicians. My final statement indicated that this article makes no assertion of general notability and I stand by both. Mstuczynski (talk) 05:27, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- Sure, and I agree with you about this article. It's just that there are many editors who see "unelected candidate" and automatically assume non-notable when, as you acknowledge, it's substantially more nuanced than that. I wanted to make sure that you weren't one of these. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 19:42, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- Not in the least. Thank you. Mstuczynski (talk) 00:42, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
- Sure, and I agree with you about this article. It's just that there are many editors who see "unelected candidate" and automatically assume non-notable when, as you acknowledge, it's substantially more nuanced than that. I wanted to make sure that you weren't one of these. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 19:42, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- Delete, candidate with no apparent notability. --Dhartung | Talk 17:50, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Delete, per lack of inherent notability (per WP:BIO) and lack of evidence of significant coverage in reliable third party sources (per WP:N). Sarcasticidealist (talk) 05:13, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
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