Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ddream studio

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete, no indication of notability, no sources. NawlinWiki 15:04, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ddream studio

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This software fails WP:CORP, since no secondary coverage is known. PROD contested by an anon IP, and maintenance tags removed, without rationale. User:Jyris1, the original author, has afterwards cleaned up the article, but it is only visually more appealing now, it does not establish notability in any way. -- Sent here as part of the Notability wikiproject. --B. Wolterding 17:36, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per lack of any news coverage Corpx 19:25, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Game-related-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 23:58, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
• Comment re the concerns of User:Jyris1 on the article's talk page: Coverage in independent reliable sources (news, for example) is the very criterion for inclusion or deletion on Wikipedia; see WP:N and WP:CORP. However, Google hits do not establish notability; also, internet message boards cannot be counted towards notability since they are self-published sources and are not considered reliable. --B. Wolterding 16:21, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

• Do I have to "edit this page" in order to discuss this, like I did right now? Jyris1 16:29, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  • That's correct. --B. Wolterding 16:31, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

• What are my options for this article? Furthermore, I also did a reasonable search for StepMania on Google news and got one hit. And the article was not even really about StepMania. Are there other news sources I have overlooked that will show that StepMania is notable? Jyris1 16:36, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Regarding options: Unless secondary sources are found, I do not feel that the article can be kept. (That's only my opinion, of course.) You might want to add a section on it in the StepMania article (should certainly be abbreviated, not all the details from the current Ddream studio article), depending on whether Ddream studio is relevant in that context. Maybe you should discuss this on Talk:StepMania first. If you like, the current article can be copied to your userspace before deletion. Regarding notability of the StepMania article (actually that's not the question we are supposed to discuss here, but nevertheless): It seems that this has been discussed before, and sources have been found. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/StepMania. For some reason not all of these these sources were added to the article, as it should have been. You might want to fix that if you like. --B. Wolterding 16:47, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks for the help, B. Wolterding. I'll try my best to follow your advice. Jyris1 17:29, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.