Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Day by Day Armageddon

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete ɑʀкʏɑɴ 19:15, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Day by Day Armageddon

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Non notable, no reliable reasources and over all absolutely nothing defining about it. User:ECH3LON

  • Delete Search results reveal loads of forum posts about the book, which aren't reliable sources. Hence it lacks mentions by reliable sources. There is no proof that the book won any awards or have outstanding sales or what not, so it's not notable. Oh, forgot to mention, the author isn't exactly that famous as well. So it fails WP:NB.--Alasdair 01:48, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Notiable as it apparently started off as an online journal that turned into a novel, apparently quite successful as RRP is £12 but they are going on Amazon for from £79.92 for a used copy. - I added some references to the article, one is from a forum, but it is the official forums of the publisher, and this post has been posted by a moderator, so it seems reliable. - Fosnez 03:04, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment On the contrary, forums posts and amazon catalogs aren't considered reliable sources in Wikipedia.--Alasdair 03:08, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
The wording of Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Examples, says While they are often controlled by a single party..., many still permit anonymous commentary and we have no way of verifying the identity of a poster. I would argue that because this post is by a Moderator, on the publishers forums that this would become a reliable source. Regarding Amazon, the citiation was used to reference a fact on the article saying that the books were selling for up to 8 times their RRP, this fact is proven by the reference, and it is a notable source. (I can't find a policy that specifically says amazon is not a reliable source, I can understand how the reviews on amazon are not a reliable source, but amazon itself is.) Fosnez 03:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Completely Fails Book Notability standard.-Dacium 03:48, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete I can't agree that there is anything paticularly notable in a book that started off as an online journal - not a unique situation, I'm afraid. There is a significant difference between a used book being offered at £79.92 and one selling at £79.92. I can't agree that any forum, moderated or not, constitutes a reliable source - particularly one operated by Permuted Press. I see no indication that the book meets any of the criteria for notability. Victoriagirl 22:52, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete forums/amazon listings do not confer notability Corpx 00:14, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.