Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dawn Yang

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Rjd0060 (talk) 23:02, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dawn Yang

Dawn Yang (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View log)

Yang appears to be barely notable at best, and the article is being used to slander her. I don't generally think we should delete based upon ill-use of an article, but I don't see much here to justify keeping the article either. Aleta Sing 01:21, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

  • "Hottest blogger?" Puh-leaaaase....delete.  Frank  |  talk  02:10, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment - I think sockpuppetry is involved in the slander directed at Yang. I have opened an SSP case at Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Affinity12. Aleta Sing 02:12, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Singapore-related deletion discussions. —Aleta Sing 02:22, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete sockpuppetry or not, there is no citation from a reputable source to indicate Notability. --Work permit (talk) 04:24, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete - as nom. Just in case my position was not clear, I don't think the subject is notable enough to keep. Aleta Sing 04:32, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete, nonsense. MrPrada (talk) 05:16, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete as non notable.--Berig (talk) 13:37, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete not notable enough. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 14:33, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Weak keep. The subject appears to have been featured on the cover of the Singapore editions of Maxim (magazine) and FHM which suggests that she is a celebrity of some kind in her home country. However, I can't find many reliable sources about her. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 14:40, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Stubify to ensure compliance with the OB marker that is BLP. I notice that all the delete !voters are not Singaporeans. Dunno den dun kaypoh lor! Blogging is a phenomenon that has become a part of Singaporean culture. Successful Singaporean bloggers (like Dawn, Xiaxue and mrbrown) are national celebrities who receive considerable press coverage. They even have sponsors and often become columnists for local newspapers and magazines! --J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 15:22, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
    • Can you provide links to some of this "considerable press coverage" (even if it's not in English)? That would go a long way toward satisfying the notability question. Aleta Sing 15:41, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
      • I do not know as much about Dawn as I do about mrbrown or Xiaxue. However, I remember (and confirmed through a quick Google search) that she is a STOMP Star Blogger (Xiaxue also used to be one). Perhaps someone with access to a newspaper archive service (such as Factiva) could search the database for "Dawn Yang" (and "Dawn Yeo")? --J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 03:52, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
    • We non-Singaporeans have heard of blogging too, but it's hard to see how this blogger's work amounts to anything more than self-publishing, which is not a reliable source. Absent independent coverage, notability is still not established. Furthermore, if you check the blog page, you can almost make a case for WP:CSD#G11, except that it's an external page. Finally, I'm not sure I agree that coverage in a language other than English would merit this article's inclusion in the English version of Wikipedia anyway. (Is there a policy on this point?)  Frank  |  talk  17:23, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
WP:N says "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be notable." It doesn't specify in English, although that certainly makes verification easier (although I don't think English is required for that either). Aleta Sing 17:39, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.