Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Sheridan
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Closed - Phil Sandifer has already put in place an alternative solution and there is no consensus for anything else. Yomanganitalk 11:19, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] David Sheridan
Fictional character from the Babylon 5 universe who never actually appears on the show - only in a few spin-off novels. Phil Sandifer 06:06, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- I retract this nomination in favor of the solution I just put into place on the article, whereby the original text is moved to The Babylon Project, and the Wikipedia article reflects primarily out-of-universe information, but has a link similar to sister project boxes at the bottom linking to the in-universe article. Phil Sandifer 19:01, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
- Transwiki to the Babylon 5 wikia or delete. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 07:17, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. This was a lead character in a novel, and mentioned in other novels and TV episodes in the series. With all due respect, I've seen a lot of less deserving characters from other series with similar wikis on this site. I'd support a transwiki if the B5 wikia was the primary source of information, but looking at the number and size of articles on that site versus this, it's clear which one is the de facto primary source. OTOH, a combined page on this wiki for minor characters like Firefly or Discworld have might also do the trick - all that's left to argue then is how much of a part a character has to play in a work of fiction before they earn their own wiki page. (Major part in one novel/episode? Background part in three? Is there a rule for that somewhere here I've missed?) Quack 688 08:07, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- Keep a character who appeared in the novels, despite not appearing in the TV show, is still notable. Wavy G 08:19, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- This is not a standard that has, to my knowledge, proven to be accepted as a notability standard. He certainly isn't a major character in B5 at large, and though he's a major character in a B5 novel - one we don't have an article on in the first place. (We admittedly did, but I just had to nuke it because the article was just the text from the back of the book.) WP:FICTION indicates pretty straightforwardly that character articles shouldn't get spun off the main article until it's too long, and minor characters should be put in a "list of minor characters" article. Phil Sandifer 14:12, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- Well, I don't know anything about Babylon5, but I know there are a lot of Star Wars characters from the novels who have their own articles, and who in my opinion would be considered very minor, because I've only ever seen the movies. But if it isn't notable enough, I'd say merge it to a list of B5 characters, if one such exists. Wavy G 21:25, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- This is not a standard that has, to my knowledge, proven to be accepted as a notability standard. He certainly isn't a major character in B5 at large, and though he's a major character in a B5 novel - one we don't have an article on in the first place. (We admittedly did, but I just had to nuke it because the article was just the text from the back of the book.) WP:FICTION indicates pretty straightforwardly that character articles shouldn't get spun off the main article until it's too long, and minor characters should be put in a "list of minor characters" article. Phil Sandifer 14:12, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- Merge into a list of minor B5 characters. --Masamage 17:22, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- Keep — Book characters are just as notable as television character in some cases. - I'd consider changing to merge if I see the end result prior. Matthew Fenton (talk · contribs · count · email) 17:24, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, transwiki per Andrew Lenahan, or merge into a minor-character list per Masamage; any of those options would comply with WP:FICT, but I'm not convinced keeping a separate article would. The transwiki option (accompanied by a summary merge into a minor-character list) would perhaps be best, as it would ensure that none of the article creators' hard work would actually be destroyed - it would merely be moved to a more appropriate venue. — Haeleth Talk 17:59, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- Keep or merge to a list of minor characters. --Fang Aili talk 18:19, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- Delete I get tired of people citing over and over again other existing unencyclopedic material as support for their unencyclopedic material existing. Delete it, and we'll get to the other stuff in due course and delete that too. •Elomis• 22:07, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. It's clear by the article that nobody is going to mistake this for anything but what it is; description of a fictional person. It's also clear that a lot of people have read this fiction, almost certainly more than have listened to a CD that has sold 5000 copies. No objection to a full content paste merger, if someone hates this being a separate article that much. Unfocused 22:14, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- weak keepBalloonman 23:13, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
