Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Schrader (writer/director)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep (no consensus). Sjakkalle (Check!) 14:21, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] David Schrader (writer/director)

Yet another contested prod. This page was originally flagged as a non-notable bio to which the prodder could have added borderline vanity page. Deprodded on grounds that the subject is obviously notable as (the) director of (a) film commercially released by Lions Gate. So we are bringing it to AfD for review. Here is his IMDB entry [1]. Personally, I think simply having your film picked up for a direct-to-video release by Lion's Gate is not obviously grounds for notabality. The film received all of one review from the extensive press covered by Rotten Tomatoes [2] and almost none of the top-billed actors have appeared in more than 2 films (except the co-director, a minor TV actor). Of the subjects other claims, his 2000 spoof generates some 300 hits, many of which however, are either ifilm spawns and the great Oz himself saying that Being Ozzie Osborne is great, but I don't sing about the f*&^%$ devil or bats or whatever. (Love that quote.) The Spike Jonez claim made on the page is unverifiable, and deceptively worded to make it look it was delivered in the context of the film winning an award. Which it didn't. In fact, a search on the film + awards, without the ifilm guss produces 0 hits [3]. Of the other claims, script tune-up for the Simpsons and South Park is both unverifiable and not notable (he could have been adding commas). Good wishes to David for future success, but in my view he does not yet meet notability standards. Delete Eusebeus 15:36, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

• This AfD appears to have been melded somehow, has no main link, and keeps shifting to the end of whatever's last. Could an admin fix it? I'm not certain how. If the link were showing it'd be David Schrader (writer/director). Taken care of while I was adding this. --ES2 15:38, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom, that a directing spot on a direct-to-video release is his only claim to fame smacks of NN. When his career has blossomed and he becomes the next Spielberg (or even Aronofsky), I'll welcome his article with open arms. Kuzaar 16:26, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
• Comment I would like to see if the claims can be verified and referenced by editor(s) on this article. I am not happy with the nom stating "deceptively worded" as this does not Assume good faith - likewise "he could have been adding commas". Tyrenius 16:38, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
  • "ambiguously worded" is the phrase we're looking for, I suspect. Average Earthman 19:37, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete very much NN by any standards, give this guy a couple of years --Deville (Talk) 00:23, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, meets notability precedents per imdb. Note also that the nominator is misrepresenting the press coverage of the release, since both IMDB and Google show more reviews, e.g. [4] Monicasdude 20:07, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep I am not happy with what seem to me to be "attacks" on someone who has done something at least, and why not have two paragraphs on him. It increases the scope of Wiki, as far as I'm concerned. Tyrenius 23:53, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Distinctly minor-league, and the simple existence of a listing on IMDB says as much about notability as does a listing in phonebook. --Calton | Talk 11:01, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, does have notability (as per IMDB and other GHits). But the page needs more refs. --soUmyaSch 11:06, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.