Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Ross (media executive)

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The result was keep per sources added to article. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 19:02, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] David Ross (media executive)

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This article is simply a personal resume of sorts. I have no doubt it was written by a party with a conflict of interest on the matter, and there are only weak and unsourced claims of notability throughout the article based on the companies this person has supposedly been involved with. Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 15:28, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

• Neutral There are pretty strong assertions of notability in the article, but I haven't been able to find any reliable sources, which surprised me, for someone who has been gathering up world champtionship titles in skydiving, all the awards mentioned in the second part of the accomplishments sections, etc. It certainly does look like there is a strong COI, which wouldn't matter that much if there were good sources to support statements made, but without sources it is really hard to estimate the notability of this person, not to mention the reliability of the article. The assertions are so strong however, that someone who is a more accomplished searcher than myself, should be able to turn up some sources (which is more complicated by the amount of fairly notable David Rosses). If that fails, however, deletion becomes a very good possibility. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 15:49, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
• I am the original poster of this article. As stated in the talk page, I built this from an interview with David Ross. I have references from articles about him. I can post them here if a neutral source can help verify adding references. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ainsworthboyle (talk • contribs) 21:48, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Even better would be adding them to the article, in a references section. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 21:51, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

• Transwiki to Wikipopuli, a more suitable wiki for biographies of people whose notability is in question.TheYellowCabin (talk) 23:52, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Yamamoto Ichiro 会話 03:16, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

• Weak Keep - for now. Add and check the references mentioned above, then re-list if they are not satisfying. --Arcanios (talk) 09:50, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

• Thanks for helping me keep this thing alive. I'm putting together articles for references. I've got the actual print material, it's difficult to locate a lot of history, because of the dates <1990s. With some help we can find the references, most of them will be in continued quotes that also provide a biography ainsworth (talk) 20:08, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Print is fine. Just get the quotes from the article, and use something like {{citejournal}}, {{citenews}}, or just format it in a way you find easy.
• Delete as insufficiently notable per WP:BIO. There is still no evidence that this person "has been the subject of published secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject." None of the three sources provided comes close to meeting this criteria. — Satori Son 15:37, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
• Weak Keep Needs much work if it is to be kept. Articles about persons who aren't well known should stick to the points which establish notability. Essentially meaning we don't need his life story. --neonwhite user page talk 00:26, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
• Original Poster I will go through and clean out a bunch of the extras. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ainsworthboyle (talk • contribs) 02:29, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
  • I went through and cleaned out a bunch of the life story content to leave just the details ainsworth (talk) 02:34, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
• Delete If he were president of Clear Channel, sure, but he was only Regional Vice President, similarly, with Y-100, he was just one of the group of people who bought the station. If uVuMobile is notable enough for its interim chief exec to be notable, try to write an article on it first. DGG (talk) 03:54, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
  • I disagree. He wasn't one of the people who "bought" WHYI. He was responsible for building WHYI to what it was. The key notability is his responsbility in building Y100, I might not clarify that well in my entry. The rest of the information is just added history to where he went from Y100. It is important to note that Y100 (part of Metroplex) was bought out by Clear Channel, and that Ross still became a part of Clear Channel, only to leave the industry as Clear Channel's path started to change. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ainsworthboyle (talk • contribs) 17:46, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

All of that is unsourced. Simply having and doing an occupation is not criteria for notability. If he isnt important enough to be mention in reliable sources then there is no notability. --neonwhite user page talk 17:42, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

• Improve and keep There needs to be more evidence of notability. Blueswan1967 (talk) 17:10, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
• Added References I added several more references to what I see as some of the key notable facts. His ownership of Y100 that brought it to the monumental radio station that it is now WHYI-FM and his original roles in early Clear Channel before it started to go downhill. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.166.242.34 (talk) 15:28, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.