Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Joyce

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-17 20:54Z

[edit] David Joyce

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Disputed speedy and fails WP:BIO, there are no sources to show how he was notable. In the article it is claimed that his fortune created the Joyce Foundation, however, in Joyce Foundation there is no mention of David Joyce RyanPostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 01:02, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete. I hesitate because it has references, but I agree that it's not notable. YechielMan 04:31, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - He is one of the "lumber barons" mentioned in Clinton, Iowa and Lyons, Iowa Lumber History which seem to have been regarded once as the "Lumber Capital of the World." The latter entry also has inside another bio of him, so I'd say he has has made his impact but the two bios should be merged and cleaned-up. As far as I sse the foundation was founded by his heiress. If this is kept it need to be sourced. Tikiwont 11:14, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Well all mentioned articles have been mostly written by the same author and while there are sources there are no specific citations. However, I found inside this [1] a small summary of the reference "Timber Connections" and stick with keep. Tikiwont 12:52, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, references dug out by Tikiwont should assert notability, but if not included into the article it does not help Alf photoman 15:50, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
  • The book Timber Connections was already included by in the article. I merely added above electronic summary for those of us who don't have it in their bookshelf. Tikiwont 16:27, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. I dug out my copy of Timber Connections and also found this biography on the Texas Transportation Archive. It's harder to find sources for older subjects, but I think BIO has been met in this case. I will commit to improving the article a bit more if it is kept.--Kubigula (talk) 23:04, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, notable and verifiable. John Vandenberg 05:41, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.