Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dave Hayes
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Sr13 01:55, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Dave Hayes
I previously nominated Hayes along with a number of other individuals, whom I was subsequently convinced were of a varying degree of notability. For this reason, I withdrew my group nomination and agreed to relist the non-notable articles individually. Hayes is a functionary in a very small (but notable) political party in the UK. While his party is notable and contains notable persons, this notability does not transfer to Smith.
He fails Wikipedia policy for notability for politician which determine that only those politicians "who have held international, national or statewide/provincewide office, and members and former members of a national, state or provincial legislatures." or are "(m)ajor local political figures who have received significant press coverage" are notable. Hayes is neither. He's never held elected office and is not even known to cognoscenti of the left fringe.
He is also not a noted political philosopher and does not even appear to write the party pamphlets or articles in his party's paper that just about every other senior member of this small group does.
He is also not a noted union figure nor a noted extra-parliamentary figure. Bigdaddy1981 06:21, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- Delete Non notable politician who hasn't held any representative office. Nick mallory 06:42, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. While Mr. Hayes has been mentioned in a number of reliable sources, all of them seem to be trivial mentions, and are generally about his party, not him. JulesH 07:23, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per Nick Mallory. Number 57 10:04, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- Comment Bigdaddy1981 has previously nominated a whole bunch of SWP leading members for deletion (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Martin Smith (politician)). This nomination seems to be part of an ongoing campaign (witness the use of 'Smith' instead of Hayes in the nom - evidence of a cut-and-paste job). As it happens, I'm somewhat inclined to have this article deleted and I write as someone who HAS heard of Smith. Sorry, Hayes. Emeraude 14:58, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
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- Comment rather than use an innuendo-based approach, why not read the above argument. I clearly state that I had nominated Smith, Hayes and others for an AfD and was convinced to do a number of them seperately. Which I am. Nothing sinister in that. Yes, its a cut and paste from Smith - the issues are near identical. Please remember to assume good faith. Bigdaddy1981 16:39, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- Apologies - was not my intention. Merely wanted to direct readers to the original discussion. (And, having suffered a power cut between reading your nom and making my comment, it was not fresh in my mind, so I missed your reference.) Emeraude 17:42, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- That's okay, I should have included a link to the original AfD anyway. Bigdaddy1981 17:54, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- Apologies - was not my intention. Merely wanted to direct readers to the original discussion. (And, having suffered a power cut between reading your nom and making my comment, it was not fresh in my mind, so I missed your reference.) Emeraude 17:42, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- Comment rather than use an innuendo-based approach, why not read the above argument. I clearly state that I had nominated Smith, Hayes and others for an AfD and was convinced to do a number of them seperately. Which I am. Nothing sinister in that. Yes, its a cut and paste from Smith - the issues are near identical. Please remember to assume good faith. Bigdaddy1981 16:39, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
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- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.