Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dashmate

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete --JForget 00:07, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dashmate

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Originally nominated for speedy deletion by me, the article has since been edited by its author, and the CSD tag contested with the following comment:

This radio, the sears-roebuck dashmate is indeed a real life am/fm/cb radio as described in the pictures included in the article. I believe that since it is in fact a real radio that was made in 1965 and this page would be the only living page that talks about this piece of memorabilia, it should be added to the Wikipedia and not deleted. It would be a part of American history as this is the only surviving radio of it's kind(it's the first and only to the best of my personal knowledge for an am/fm radio to have a cb feature for 1965, and the fact that it was made by sears-roebuck in the USA and Simpsons-Sears in Canada, makes it that much more rarer). I have pleaded my case.[1]

I still believe the notability of this article is questionable, though I would no longer go as far as requesting speedy deletion. I want the notability discussed here. -- Blanchardb 12:33, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

• Speedy Delete per A7. This article does not assert notability in the least bit. There are no sources and until a few minutes ago the article had sentences such as "This page has been created by the author so something can be said about the radio." If the author wished for something to be said he/she should either create a blog, or a website, or even go to yahoo answers to ask questions about it, but this article should never have been created on Wikipedia. TonyBallioni 14:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per TonyBallioni. Rarity, for an article sold at Sears, means few people were interested by it. --Blanchardb 16:02, 4 November 2007 (UTC) Nominator's !vote is in the deletion nomination. -- Jreferee t/c 19:02, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

• Comment -I guess the article will have to be deleted as the author of the article can't find any references to this radio in particular(the am/fm/ with cb feature). I can find several that have the 8-track feature but not the cb feature, and this is ridiculous to not be able to find any information to back my article up. Sorry guys, if you want to delete it then do so. There's obviously nothing I can do to prevent it. + -Logansryche/the author. Logansryche (talk • contribs • logs) 18:57, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

• If it is your wish that the page be deleted you can request it by placing the db-author template at the top of the page. -- TonyBallioni 20:53, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

• Keep - per The Articles Author. I think it's bs for Blanchardb to sit there and say "because it's a rare item made by sears, no one's interested in it". This radio is part of American history and should be a part of Wikipedia. I'd add more info to it but i don't have much more. You know, for an online encyclopedia, this is bull. You guys make it extremely hard to add articles on rare pieces of history (whether it has direct references or not). I think the pictures of the radio are enough credible proof. -- Logansryche (talk • contribs • logs) 21:31, 4 November 2007 (UTC) — Logansryche (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. -- Jreferee t/c 19:02, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

• Comment I think you missed my point. If an item sold by Sears is so rare, it means that they had a hard time selling those. American history? Come on... --Blanchardb 22:22, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Stifle (talk) 21:54, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. I don't see any sources for this, and the topmost relevant Google hits are for people selling vintage radios on eBay. This is not a question of people being interested in it, it's a question of whether it meets Wikipedia's guidelines about notability and verifiability, and it doesn't seem to. -- Accounting4Taste 23:18, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per Stifle; article cannot be attributed to a verifiable source. L337 kybldmstr 23:21, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per Author. Aren't pictures alone creditable enough? It's of the actual radio! And like I told Stiffle, the only thing that came close was a dashmate with an 8track player instead of a cb radio. This is the only surviving radio and I am trying to find out as much on the radio as possible but when I get hit with this "status:delete" i'm like wtf (sorry for the language). 12.45.207.2 (talk • contribs • logs) 23:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC) Blanchardb, i don't think you quite know what you're talking about. When an item becomes rare it means theres none of them left, not that they weren't popular! This also goes along with my '73 suburban. They're the most successful SUV on the planet and yet mine is the only surviving one of that style. I think you're a bit crossed my friend. 12.45.207.2 (talk • contribs • logs) 23:41, 4 November 2007 (UTC) This comment was added by User:12.45.207.2, who has few or no edits outside this topic. Stifle (talk) 20:13, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

• Comment - It sounds to me like the original author owns one of these things, and that's why he insists on having a Wikipedia article about them. In all likelihood, the now-deleted pictures were taken by him, and he forgot to properly tag them for copyright status. But that some piece of machinery exists and someone has pictures to prove it does not by itself constitute sufficient notability. How many of these radios were sold? If too few, then what later technologies were influenced by its design? That's notability. Not the mere fact that there is still one of them around. Or else, I could also write an article about my Panasonic Quintrix TV which is gathering dust but still in working condition. --Blanchardb 00:16, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

• Comment Blanchardb, technicaly speaking then, I have no idea how many were sold. The entire idea behind such a creation was combining a cb radio with an am/fm radio for ease of installation. And for some reason the pictures were deleted (no matter). Well I guess then technically I don't have a leg to stand on. All I know is that the radio is the last of its kind and know little to nothing about it. If I can't keep the article, then will someone please delete the article in full along with my account. I'm tired of arguing my point and not getting anywhere. Erase my pictures too if it hasn't been done so. 12.45.207.2 (talk • contribs • logs) 00:33, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

• Delete. -- The article says I quote "Not much is known about this radio". Until there is there's no point in creating an article about it. What is this, an information fishing expedition? Bombycil 16:33, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
• Comment - There some information in Consumers' Research Magazine (September 1981) AM-FM car stereo cassette receivers. (comparison) Volume 64; Pag 24 (discussing Sears Dashmate 564.507001 (radio-tape unit, automobile) and Sears Dashmate 280.505601 (radio-tape unit, automobile)). Google books brings up some info. Google products brought up the Dashmate Antenna, but not the radio-tape unit. No prejudice against recreating the article if enough reliable source material can be located. -- Jreferee t/c 19:18, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.