Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Darkera Media

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete.  (aeropagitica)  15:48, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Darkera Media

Non-notable business, that gets all of 4 unique google hits. Counts as vanity, seeing as the article was started by User:Darkera global logistics. Wikipedia is not a business directory. Francs2000 16:02, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

NB note also Darkera which is a duplicate article to this one.

  • I must protest that if Speedcore is a relevant entry; as is Mister joker; to the music community - then Darkera has also has relevance as a free-distribution artistic archive for this EXACT subject. Notability is subjective to the readers own bias. Followers of the Hardcore Techno movement would argue this "non-notability" Discrimination based on popularity would be ACTUAL vanity, especially if it led to the removal of this article. A curious Wikipedian might venture a search for "hardcore music labels" or something similar > only to find countless entries referring to artists, bands and labels. So why punish just this ONE of many "offenders"? 64.180.249.186 16:49, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
    See Wikipedia:Vanity for a definition of what we mean when we say "it's vanity". Speedcore actually gets 333,000 which would demonstrate notability to me; even Mister Joker gets 325 (that article itself is borderline and most certainly fits what we would define as vanity here). -- Francs2000 16:56, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Magdela 16:58, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
  • ...the article has been up for less then a day only... to remove it instantly doesn't even give it a fair chance to reveal its importance. Darkera is of much more significance than it has been granted here.

I would agree that the Darkera Media article should be merged with Darkera as it is obviously redundant. 64.180.249.186 17:03, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

    • Delete I think you are missing the point. The company is either worthy of recognition or it isn't. How many CDs has it released and how many copies have they sold? How many culturally significant artists have they produced? If Darkera's goal is to establish the significance of currently unknown artists that is a terriffic goal but it means that Darkera does not currently deserve a Wikipedia entry. Wikipedia recognizes notability, it is not a tool to develop notability. Thatcher131 18:30, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Darkera is an Emeriging music label representing a vast varity of musical content. you expect something that its only been up for one day to get a million hits or so? thats ridiculas. artists as much as labels need recogination. censoring something after a total of 24 hours without prior seeing what the full results maybe are not only ludacriss but also obscenly stupid and hindering.

Someone mentioned you cant find DE content well here is the brief history of the label so far try going to Discogs. YOU can not even get content on that site unless its proved to have beeen released and offical http://www.discogs.com/label/Darkera try looking on sites that sell Dj releated vinyls, things RR and hardcorestore, Sector-1 etc things that generate for the community, rather then some lame search on probley what HMV Uk or some place that deals with Mainstream releases

Djamunra 17:32, 7 March 2006 (UTC)


As I think you need to learn to count Darkera Unique hits are 501 not 4 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Djamunra (talk • contribs)

  • Delete per nom. Sandstein 18:41, 7 March 2006 (UTC)


OK - so I have retuned the Darkera article and begun development of a useful discussion. Hopefully this will help to answer some of the questions arising here.

vanity was certainly not the intent of this information, however I understand that the original entry was not useful. Quite to the opposite, the main drive of the DE movement has always been the free and unbiased release of music. Even so, this has not prevented the release of purchasable hardcopy albums as well.

Any constructive suggestions of how to imporve this article will be well taken :o)

||[Darkera Global Logistics]|| 20:19, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete. "Emerging" does not equal "notable". Let them advertise in Rolling Stone. Slowmover 22:15, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Independent labels rarely have the money or resources to advertise in such a publication. This is not an ad; it is public domain infomation on a currently under-developed topic. 140.161.67.104 01:42, 8 March 2006 (UTC)


Deleting a small but growing company made by people who work all day at a real job to fund their dream project would defeat the utopian concept of an open and free internet that may have created wikipedia.

64.180.25.36 06:17, 8 March 2006 (UTC)


Rewrote main page, fixed miscatagorization & started to add links to valid externel media.

I would suggest to anyone who still considers Darkera an unnotable contributor to the speedcore scene: please review Project: Enigma. This vinyl is being released next month at I Hate Trance (notice that both Hellseeker & Gabba Front Berlin are playing in area 1 - speedcore/terror). I Hate Trance is a popular repeat party organized by the reputable Underground For Ever. Click here if you want a ticket.

This will bring Darkera's hardcopy count to 4 ~ 1 cd, 2 vinyls and a DVD. Subsiduary Gateway clocks in with 9 releases.

13 albums is notable.

||[Darkera Global Logistics]|| 08:42, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Not verifiable as it stands. Not prejudiced against a proper recreate. Stifle 01:14, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.