Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Danish Atheist Society

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete ck lostsword•T•C 17:31, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Danish Atheist Society

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Non-notable, small atheist group. No assertion of notability, no references. Hornet35 14:24, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Speedy delete, A7. Does not assert notability of the group. Jakew 16:01, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
  • delete, doesn't assert notability, recently formed, only a few hundred members. Squiddy | (squirt ink?) 16:59, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, 300 members is not very impressive. Skarioffszky 17:08, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Speedy delete, not notable, not reliable sources. Realkyhick 17:09, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Not a speedy, but 300 members is not a notable organisation, so delete. — BillC talk 20:35, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete No evidence of notability. I have no problem with a future article on this organisation if notability can be established, and my vote should not be taken as support for future speedy deletes. Mdwh 22:25, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Per nom.PelleSmith 01:40, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment the nominator is a sock of an indef banned user, although the article lacks notability the AfD is done in bad faith and should be closed so a good faith AfD may be started by a reputable user. Darrenhusted 14:35, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Response: The status of the editor has no baring on the value of the AfD. Are all the delete voters here socks too? Appropriate action against editor behavior should be taken up elsewhere.PelleSmith 14:48, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment There is no proof that I am a sock-puppet, your claims constitutes libel. --Hornet35 08:35, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
  • You're advised to read WP:LEGAL before going down that route. Ttiotsw 13:56, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - the deletes above based on number of people is a fallacy that disregards the small size of Denmark - around 5 million people. Extrapolate out the ratio of the Denmark population to the US and this would give 60:1 * 300 = 18,000 members. Notability for small groups in non-English language is hard to obtain but the issue for Wikipedia is if it is referred to by 3rd parties,....
  • Article in Danish here referring to the organisation (ps: My Danish is shit - not only I don't know how to ask for a beer in Denmark, I couldn't afford many anyway from what I saw when I visited Denmark in 2005 - nice people though) and Kristeligt Dagblad is in the Danish Wikipedia - [1] so it a reliable source as any. Related link here [2] plus google for "Ateistisk Selskab"+Dagblad gets hits, albeit nothing much in English.
  • Listing here on Richard Dawkings net. Now you could argue that Dawkins web pages are partisan but who cares - Dawkins is a well known scientist so it's really a matter of showing that his web site is unreliable in its content management.
Thats all folks.Ttiotsw 13:56, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Comment Sounds like a case for notability on the Danish language version of Wikipedia.PelleSmith 21:10, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Comment - Whats the policy here ? Personally I see all EU languages as legally equal (the core EU ones at least anyway). If something is notable in one language then wouldn't it be notable in all other languages by default ? Ttiotsw 14:03, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Though I agree that the group doesn't appear to have gained sufficient notability (yet?), I'd like to annotate that this has not much to do with number of members. There are and have been internationally notable groups with a similar or even smaller number of members. WP:CSD#A7 is not applicable however due to the existence of a number of websites that appear to demonstrate minor notability at least within the atheist and secular humanist movement [3] (listing on the Atheist Alliance International website), [4], [5], [6]. —AldeBaer 14:22, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.