Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daniele Capelloni

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete all. – Avi 02:00, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Daniele Capelloni

Young player who has never appeared in Inter Milan's first team. Definitely not notable. Angelo 10:48, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages because they are all about Primavera (youth team, usually Under-19 or Under-20) players too:

  • Delete per previous discussion concerning Paolo Tornaghi. When they play for the first team, it will be another matter. JPD (talk) 11:07, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep I guess those players will one day play for a first team (maybe not Inter but it's not important) so why not keep them? Julien Tuerlinckx 11:16, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete for much the same reason as the above rationale to keep them - if all we're engaged in here is guessing that one day those players will play for a first team, then we're looking through the Crystal Ball. What if they all end up pursuing careers in unrelated fields or playing their club football for a third-tier team in Outer Mongolia? Unless and until they play for the first team (we can argue the notability of Outer Mongolia FC later) somewhere, they're not notable. BigHaz 11:22, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Week Keep Inter youth team players are likely to end up being notable within a couple of years. Keeping these articles is not crystal-balling, the same as in, say, 2014 FIFA World Cup, which we know is likely to come into existence in a couple of years (when bidding officially begins). A more sensible approach would be to keep them for the time being, then re-submit them for deletion in a few years' time once it's known they would no longer be notable by virtue of being a professional football player. And it would be easily to verify -- if the article says a player's an Inter youth team player, and by, say, August 2008, he no longer appears on the Inter official web page nor plays in any other notable football team, then it would be safe to remove such a player as being non-notable. --Pkchan 11:42, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
    • It's not a likelihood matter. There's nothing to say about them as of today. If one day they'll deserve an article on Wikipedia, we'll make it. By the way, I'm not so convinced they will play all in Serie A in the future. --Angelo 11:46, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete without prejudice. They do not meet our guidelines yet. Punkmorten 11:56, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Week Keep. I could live with them being deleted, but I've learnt some info from those stubs. I now know where they all come from, the teams they are at, their positions and ages. If they are deleted the chances are they'll just get made again, e.g. Paolo Tornaghi. They are notable for being players at (mostly) major professional football clubs — it's not like they're someone's mate who plays for the local pub team. aLii 12:37, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. I have a feeling Abdoulaye Diarra has been capped for the Ivory Coast, so strong keep him. Esteffect 12:53, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Diarra is a very diffuse name in Cote d'Ivoire. Perhaps you mean Drissa Diarra, formerly of US Lecce and now playing to Serie C1's Perugia. Or Mahamadou Diarra (but he's Malian). --Angelo 15:28, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Abdoulaye Djire is an Ivorian international, perhaps you are thinking of him. Diarra is not an international. Oldelpaso 17:44, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Crystal ball. Reinstate when they make the first team. -- GWO
  • Delete all per GWO's reasoning. It is sheer unfounded speculation to say any of these players will definitely play first team. No predjudice against recreation when they actually do make the team.--Isotope23 14:06, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete - Professional athletes really aren't notable until they make the majors in their respective sport. No prejudice to recreation if they win some notable player of the year award or play for a "first team", "major league team", or whatever they're called in Italian football/soccer. Wickethewok 15:00, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Crystal ball--Andymarczak 09:01, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete or possibly merge into one article (Internationale Under 20, say). --Daduzi talk 10:02, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as crystalballism. Many of them will become notabl but they aren't notable yet. Eluchil404 19:59, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete all - fail WP:BIO. BTW Angelo, you an AC Milan fan? :-) BlueValour 02:27, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Definitely no, I'm a Palermo fan. --Angelo 11:23, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.