Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Danforth Avenue

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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was keep for all four articles. - Mailer Diablo 10:52, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Danforth Avenue, Degrassi Street, Don Mills Road, Dufferin Street

Someone seems intent on creating an article on every single street in Toronto. Since Wikipedia is not a roadmap, I believe this is misguided, and said user should instead look in Wikicities or Wikitravel. I do believe that some streets are encyclopedic, but not all of them. These articles consist of trivia as to what attractions are near the street, or explain in detail the person the street was named after (which should be explained in an article on that person). Delete. Radiant_* 08:10, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)

  • Keep, all the most useful detail in the world is "trivia" to some people. Kappa 10:15, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep, major or historic streets in major cities are noteworthy Paradiso 10:21, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
    • Obviously, but these aren't major or historic streets. Radiant_* 11:53, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep Degrassi street, which is in fact a bit famous. No vote on the rest, I would like to hear the opinion of a Torontan as to their notability. Securiger 11:18, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep major streets. - SimonP 13:32, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep I know nothing of Toronto but have heard of "The Danforth". - Jord 14:49, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
    • Yes, so have I, but Danforth Avenue is not the same thing as The Danforth. It's merely nearby. Radiant_* 15:47, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)
      • Actually, "The Danforth" is the street itself; the larger neighbourhood is referred to as Greektown or Riverdale. (Frex, the Barenaked Ladies song "The Old Apartment" has the lyric "We bought an old house on the Danforth", not "in the Danforth". Bearcat 18:54, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Merge and redirect most of them. Danforth Avenue to Danforth, Degrassi Street to The Kids of Degrassi Street, Don Mills Road to Don Mills. Delete Dufferin Street. Hopefully we will soon be able to have an actual map of Toronto so this longhand description will not be needed (as if it ever was). -R. fiend 17:13, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete trivial streetcruft. A serious encyclopedia discriminates between useless data and useful information. Gamaliel 18:57, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • My own take, personally, is that Danforth and Degrassi are sufficiently notable, but Don Mills and Dufferin probably aren't (disclosure: I created the Degrassi article, because of its significance to what are arguably the most famous Canadian television series in history, but I don't normally do Toronto streets). I don't believe that all major streets should have articles; only ones with special historic significance. As a Torontonian, my own evaluation is that most of them really ought to be shitcanned, but keep Allen, Bay, Black Creek, Bloor, College, Danforth, Degrassi, Don Valley Parkway, Dundas, Eglinton, Front, Gardiner Expressway, Kingston, Lakeshore, Queen West, Spadina, St. Clair, University and Yonge as more notable than most. (Oh, and the provincial highway numbers, but those are a different matter entirely.) Bearcat 19:17, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. --SPUI (talk) 20:59, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep and allow for organic growth and expansion. --GRider\talk 23:38, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep Another lamentable example of the deletionist practice of rephrasing (ie misrepresenting) policy in the hope of swaying a vote. Wincoote 01:35, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
    • No personal attacks please.
      • Comment: The above is a lamentable example of the distortion of policy to suppress free speech. Kappa 10:07, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
        • No, Kappa, it is not. This VfD nomination makes no reference to policy, merely to the nominator's beliefs. Ungroundedly accusing people of breaking policy, as you have just done construes personal attack. Radiant_* 11:11, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC)
          • So does no-one ever break policy, or are we just not allowed to mention it when it happens? Kappa 12:03, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
            • You shouldn't mention it unless it happens. Radiant_* 13:13, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC)
  • Dufferin Street is extremely important historically because it used to be the centre of Toronto's Italian community for 30-40 years and still intersects "Little Italy." I just added some info about this to the article. Paradiso 04:43, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
    • Then my not redirect it to the article on Little Italy in Toronto? I assume there is one. It's certainly mroe notable than the street running through it. -R. fiend 20:09, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep --Spinboy 04:55, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep - Notable Toronto streets which meet my criterion for inclusion of roads and streets. Degrassi Street was shown on ABC TV in Australia. Capitalistroadster 11:55, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep all major streets. N-Man 13:32, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep them all. Samaritan 16:44, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep being intent on listing streets is not a crime. Nobody would accuse any street in NYC as being of no consequence, and Toronto is the capital of Canada. People need to be more sparing with the delete tag. Sniffandgrowl 00:40, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • User was created today; he has only two edits not to vfds, one of them to his user page. —Korath (Talk) 02:25, Apr 1, 2005 (UTC)
    • Be sure to update Wikipedia's article on Canada to reflect the fact that apparently they moved their capital from Ottawa. Gamaliel 17:06, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. If someone wants to write an article on every street in Toronto, Wikipedia will be that much closer towards becoming a truly encyclopedic encyclopedia.--Gene_poole 01:37, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. ElBenevolente 05:46, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep Degrassi Street, delete the rest. --Calton | Talk 00:19, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep; all are major and/or notable streets, especially the first two. I'm not aware of anything interesting on Dufferin but I could be wrong. —Psychonaut 03:41, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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