Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dan neiwert

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. NawlinWiki 06:20, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dan neiwert

Article about a non-notable person. Prod was removed from article by anonymous editor without comment. Only possible claim to notability is a book published by a vanity press by the name of PublishAmerica (see Washington Post article). Current Amazon sales rank into 7 digits. Google search for '"gentleman of leisure" +neiwert' gets just 44 hits, none of which appears to be a review of the book. So this article appears to contravene WP:VAIN, WP:RS, WP:V, WP:OR, etc., etc. Valrith 04:46, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

• Strong delete. Many of the Neiwert's claims to notability, such as having content hosted on MySpace or Blogtalkradio, are considered trivial as everyone, regardless of background or credentials, are allowed to submit content to said websites.--TBCΦtalk? 05:06, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete non notable, possibly semi-notable if the article cited sources. wtfunkymonkey 06:02, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - Does not pass notability criteria for an individual. I won't list all the criteria since it is clear that Neiwert is not an athlete, politician, artist (ie. sculptor, painter etc.), participant i na major event, actor/tv personality, or an honeree on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. This pretty much limits us to the following two criteria:

1. The person has been the primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person.

2. The person made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in their specific field.

I cannot find any (let alone multiple) non-trivial works for which Neiwert was the "primary subject". Nor could I find any source suggesting Neiwert has made a widely recognized contribution to his field (whatever that may be). As always, if someone can provide sources demonstrating the individual satisfies either of the above two criteria, I will rethink my suggestion. -bobby 15:04, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

There is already at least one president http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Dolce

She has gained virtually all her notarity from MySpace. Says so in the bio. (yoshikwan)

There is already at least one president that proves that MYSPACE fame isn't trival. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Dolce She has gained virtually all her notarity from MySpace. Says so in the bio. (yoshikwan) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yoshikwan (talk • contribs) 02:51, November 5, 2006

In his defense...

Although it is true that anyone can post a blog on a site such as Myspace.com, not everyone can be in their top ten rankings, which is based on total amount of unique hit's per day. If Neiwert's blog registered number one, which it has, and been confirmed to be, then he's got more popularity, meanstream popularity, than most people who are "notable bloggers." Each day on MYSPACE over 600,000 blogs are posted , on average. Neiwert consistantly makes the top 10 every time he writes something. Top 10 in blogs, out of 600,000. That's pretty notable. He has done numerous radio shows as a guest to talk about not only his book, but his blog.

Also, he is known more for his blog, than he is his book. But he is a published author, so that's why that notation was put in his description. That can be taken out if it has to be, but it is what it is! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yoshikwan (talk • contribs) 22:25, November 2, 2006

• Delete NN. --Kf4bdy ^{talk contribs} 23:43, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes, should have singed previous comment. I appologize. As you can now see, his page has now been vandalized by 2 different people already. A sure sign that he is very well known, although not liked by some. YOSHIKWAN

He is popular. -The James —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.163.100.74 (talk • contribs) 03:04, November 5, 2006

• Delete -- I carefully reviewed the criteria for WP:Bio, and the only one I could see possibly applying was the search engine test. Unfortunately, the subject fails this test also. "Dan Neiwert" gets 41 Google hits, while "The gentleman of leisure" gets 569. Fails WP:Bio. SWAdair 03:13, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Will no longer fight deletion in anyway, but all you guys seriously need to look at the history of this page, and do something about the vandalizers. I am to new to this site to know what can be done, but just read the "edits" by a few of these people. It's classless (yoshikwan).

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