Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dammit, Janet!
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Delete. Well, as much as I enjoy the film and song, consensus has spoken loud and clear. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 16:31, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Dammit, Janet!
Delete - prod removed, claiming that the song is independently notable. The song, however, is not independently notable. The notability of Rocky Horror does not extend to every song from its score or soundtrack. Does not meet the proposed guideline for songs at WP:MUSIC. I love the movie as much as anyone but the fact that WP:ILIKEIT doesn't warrant an article. Otto4711 17:27, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:INHERITED and WP:ILIKEIT; just because it's part of a notable TV show doesn't mean its notable. NASCAR Fan24(radio me!) 17:42, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, and because it is unlikely that the song on its own is discussed in independent works. --Paul Erik 18:32, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- Keep It's notable, it is just a stub like most songs on wikipedia. It just needs improvement to meet the proposed guidelines I'd guess, but we'll never know, because someone prefers it not to be improved. over 13000 google hits for this song under this title, covers of the song from productions on all continents and most countries, seems to meet the guidelines, just needs improved.--Buridan 20:51, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete The song isn't notable outside of rocky horror. It's never charted as a single, no bands (major label) have covered it, the song itself is not covered in the news without mention of rocky horror. It just doesn't cut it. It's part of an original thearical musical score and is like having a unique article for every song from Chicago (musical) or Annie. --Torchwood Who? 21:27, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- comment what's wrong with that if they are notable?--Buridan 04:34, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
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- comment Nothing, if they're notable. A good example would be "One Night in Bangkok" from the musical Chess, the song is probably better known than the musical. Dammit, Janet isn't influencial beyond the musical it was a part of.--Torchwood Who? 05:17, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
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- Also Buridan, can you please give us links to the sources you've found so we can better understand your argument? I haven't been able to find anything besides lists of the song lyrics, Rocky Horror tribute and info pages (about the show in general) and pages about the family guy episode of the same name (which I understand is a reference to the song, but then we have to judge whether it's a reference to Rocky Horror in general or the song itself... which isn't an argument either side will be able to win)--Torchwood Who? 07:34, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- comment all i did was google and then scan the first two pages, you have a good start there, as it covered european covers and australian covers of the soundtrack. of course, 297 including 10 or more independent references of this duet in books.google.com is somewhat significant, too. --13:32, 1 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Buridan (talk • contribs)
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- Follow up We must be seeing very different things. In my searches googling the terms "Dammit Janet" "Dammit Janet Song" and "Dammit Janet Cover" nothing comes up except Rocky Horror pages, song lyrics and family guy. I can't find the covers you're talking about. I also can't find anything on google books using the same terms. It's hard for me to find anything at all on the song that's not referencing the sequence in the movie. When I google the song title with the names of the bands I only get track listings on about three sites, but no review or mention of the song from a third party source. Please actually give us the LINKS you're seeing so we know what you're talking about.--Torchwood Who? 00:14, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
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- comment all i did was google and then scan the first two pages, you have a good start there, as it covered european covers and australian covers of the soundtrack. of course, 297 including 10 or more independent references of this duet in books.google.com is somewhat significant, too. --13:32, 1 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Buridan (talk • contribs)
- Also Buridan, can you please give us links to the sources you've found so we can better understand your argument? I haven't been able to find anything besides lists of the song lyrics, Rocky Horror tribute and info pages (about the show in general) and pages about the family guy episode of the same name (which I understand is a reference to the song, but then we have to judge whether it's a reference to Rocky Horror in general or the song itself... which isn't an argument either side will be able to win)--Torchwood Who? 07:34, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
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- comment Nothing, if they're notable. A good example would be "One Night in Bangkok" from the musical Chess, the song is probably better known than the musical. Dammit, Janet isn't influencial beyond the musical it was a part of.--Torchwood Who? 05:17, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
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- Delete It saddens me to say, but it doesn't satisfy the current guidelines for song notability.--Sethacus 23:23, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. CRGreathouse (t | c) 17:16, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
