Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daewoo Nubira
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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was KEEP. Postdlf 01:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Chevrolet Nubira (formerly Daewoo Nubira)
the article reads like a copy/paste direct from the car dealer's marketing brochure. I did a quick check for copyvio and couldn't find a source, but I think the article as it stands now is blatant advertising. Feco 20:51, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Good topic, and some useful content. Certainly needs work, but not deletion. Andrewa 22:16, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Keep, I've tried to rework it to make it sound more encyclopdic. -- Lochaber 09:28, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- + comment if this article is kept it should probably be moved to Chevrolet Nubira because AFAIK all Daewoo cars have now been rebranded as Chevrolet. -- Lochaber 09:28, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Comment: In Australia the brand and all models vanished from the new car market at the end of 2004, but there are still plenty of Daewoo Nubiras on the road here, while the only Chevs of any sort are personal imports, unlikely for this model IMO. No change of vote. Andrewa 12:13, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Not a brochure copy, contains incorrect info on hatchback/station wagon versions (sorry Lochaber). DmitryKo 10:34, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Daewoo (and Chevrolet) don't sell all models in all markets. I don't know USA policies, but I've seen new Daewoo Nubira cars in the last year, and the only Daewoo-built Chevies I've seen have been smller models than this midsize sedan. No vote. Barno 15:31, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Comment. Daewoo Nubira, Chevrolet Nubira, Chevrolet Lacetti sedan, Chevrolet Optra and Suzuki Forenza are exactly the one same car (the same applies to Daewoo Lacetti which is known as Chevrolet Lacetti/Optra5 and Suzuki Reno).
Since the Daewoo brand is dropped now, I moved Daewoo Nubira to Chevrolet Nubira. DmitryKo 18:00, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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- Comment: It seems to me that, despite some mentions of other markets, this article is now very US-centric. This model was originally sold as a Daewoo, worldwide, and in some markets has no other name. The Daewoo factory remains its source, while the Chevrolet connection is pure badging. IMO, for the article to now be headed by the current US model name is embarrassing, and I would move it back. If the Chevrolet model deserves its own article, write one. No change of vote. Andrewa 21:14, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Chevrolet Nubira is not an US name (Suzuki Forenza is), and I wouldn't want to see dozen one-string articles of XXX is what Daewoo Nubira is called in YYY pattern when Daewoo brand is dropped everywhere but Korea. DmitryKo 16:08, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Of course not. The correct thing is to have redirects from any other significant names for the model. And if it's also still called a Daewoo in Korea, ISTM even more that this is the best name for the article, but see talk:Chevrolet Nubira. Also please note that the VfD notice requests that moves do not take place during a vote. Andrewa 17:15, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Chevrolet Nubira is not an US name (Suzuki Forenza is), and I wouldn't want to see dozen one-string articles of XXX is what Daewoo Nubira is called in YYY pattern when Daewoo brand is dropped everywhere but Korea. DmitryKo 16:08, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Comment: It seems to me that, despite some mentions of other markets, this article is now very US-centric. This model was originally sold as a Daewoo, worldwide, and in some markets has no other name. The Daewoo factory remains its source, while the Chevrolet connection is pure badging. IMO, for the article to now be headed by the current US model name is embarrassing, and I would move it back. If the Chevrolet model deserves its own article, write one. No change of vote. Andrewa 21:14, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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- I agree with Andrewa on all three points. Barno 15:03, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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- Keep & cleanup. Automobiles usually pass the (low) bar for of notability. Shimmin 17:08, Apr 22, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. This is an important article on an automoblie, and should stay. User:NewGuy4
- Keep. Cars sold in a major or medium sized market by a major company are notable enough for mine. Capitalistroadster 03:10, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.