Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/D.O.C. (Lost)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep all since they've been confirmed. --Wafulz 21:04, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] D.O.C. (Lost)

D.O.C. (Lost) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

WP:CRYSTAL, unsourced Will 11:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Also added: One of Us (Lost) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) and Catch-22 (Lost) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) Will 11:25, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. Seems like a clear violation of Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. And MySpace is not a source. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 11:33, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

*Delete all Delete One of Us and DOC (and create articles once there's verifiable info from reliable sources). No verifiable info, most has no source, and the sources that are there are spoiler sites, which aren't RS. --Minderbinder 12:56, 23 March 2007 (UTC) Updated - if someone can find an ABC source on the others I'll change my vote on those as well. --Minderbinder 19:58, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete all, except for "One of Us". I found and added an official reference for the title. SergeantBolt (t,c) 17:14, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep D.O.C. and One of Us which have official confirmation and shouldn't even be here. Delete Catch-22 per Lost Wikiproject policies. --thedemonhog talk contributions 19:31, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
A spoiler blog is hardly official confirmation. --Minderbinder 19:40, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
In this case it is. Also, I change my vote to Keep all because of more official confirmation from ABC's updated program schedule. --thedemonhog talk contributions 03:56, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Daniel Dae Kim is an actor on the show and should be considered a verifiable source. The spoiler blog is linked to because Kim's myspace is set to private. ShadowUltra 20:04, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Myspace is not a reliable source, neither is a blog. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 22:38, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
  • What I'm trying to point out is that the source is Daniel Dae Kim, not MySpace. MySpace is simply the venue where he stated the information. If he stated it in his backyard, is his inanimate backyard the source? No, he is, because he said it. ShadowUltra 23:09, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep All. I can provide where i got the name titles and how i know the characters are being featured. These are ALL official. MySpace should however NOT be cited as reference, Just as a support. One of Us, D.O.C. and the REST are "CONFIRMED augrunt 06:33, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


  • Confirmations
  • Catch-22' Confirmation - 02/28 - Source: Kristin on E!Online, Also featured on IMDB augrunt 06:41, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
  • One Of Us' Charlie is about to get caught by the fate that Desmond predicted. Through a series of flashbacks, we will find out more details about Juliet's life before and on the island. (Tv.com) Confirmation - http://imdb.com/title/tt0979597/ augrunt 06:41, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
  • D.O.C.' is ALSO on TV.com and IMDB... augrunt 06:41, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I am sorry but the more I look into it, the MORE information I find that these titles are correct. I also have other sources. I can dive in further, but this is enough not to warrant these articles for deletion. augrunt 06:41, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

You are right and you are wrong. The episodes have been confirmed, however the sources you have cited are not credible. You should have links to ABC Medianet's schedule grid and Daniel Dae Kim's blog. Also, read up on the Lost WikiProject's policy concerning future episodes. --thedemonhog talk contributions 08:28, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Lemme try to understand

Based on ABC, we know One of Us and Catch-22 are confirmed. The deletion tag should be removed. From Daniel Dae Kim, a cast member (therefore, he meets the Lost wikiproject's reliable source criteria) confirmed D.O.C. So, we should end this discussion. ShadowUltra 18:14, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Do we have a way of knowing for sure that the myspace page is really DDK's? --Minderbinder 19:56, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Just end this pointless discussion. All sources (if any) are reliable and add to the pile of evidence. The amount of "weight" a source carries is what is under review here. and If you want, i can dig up around 50 websites that offer that THESE are the titles. and like Minderbinder said, We already know One Of Us and Catch 22 "ARE" confirmed. Remove the tags, close this thread. and lets go our own ways. augrunt 03:33, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong delete: No official confirmation. -- SilvaStorm
Uh, yeah there is. --thedemonhog talk contributions 00:11, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Keep: Daniel Dae Kim has cofirmed that this is his MySpace page on several occasions, on the Fuselage forum, and elsewhere. We can be fairly certain that all three titles are reasonable. Depressed Marvin 00:11, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep All, they all have reliable sources now. ~HJ [talk]@½ -03:16, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Strongest Keep All Possible, because 1) the article is interesting, 2) Lost is one of the highest rated shows on television, and 3) plenty of reputable references available. Sincerely, --164.107.223.217 02:44, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
    • ABC confirmed the title today. I don't feel like fetching the excel grid that revealed it. But it's up at ABCMedianet. ShadowUltra 03:19, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.