Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cytherea (erotic actress)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was Keep (12/1).--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 09:53, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Cytherea (erotic actress)
Does not establish the notability of the subject per [{WP:BIO]], and I submit that this person is unknown to those why routinely type with both hands. - Just zis Guy, you know? [T]/[C] (W) AfD? 19:25, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
- Delete Wikipedia is not for squirt womans or sex movies. I keep deleting that link to her official webpage since it's a commercial website. See TOS of Wikipedia. I also got some kind of warning about this but once again, no linking to commercial websites. Besides, I can also come up with a name flower and add my naked pics and thos things to the category flower. So delete. This girl has nothing to do with the greek mythology. -- (Preceding unsigned comment made by 83.160.38.218 on 19:23, 17 November 2005)
- Comment Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. We cover everything from mass murders to fictional characters to sciences -- in essence the entire human spectrum, per se, no matter what moral judgments people hold. Given your edit history on the article in question, your point of not inserting commercial websites into Wikipedia strikes a bit as hypocrisy, don't you think? And, just for future information, articles for deletion votes are not about you -- it is about the subject at hand, which is the pornographic actress and not your potential ability to "come up with a name flower and add my naked pics and thos things to the category flower"... which, to be honest, doesn't seem to make sense to me on some level... -- Joe Beaudoin Jr. Think out loud 01:54, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
- Comment Just to make it clear to innocent bystanders what Joe Beaudoin is referring to, for a time 83.160.38.218 kept changing the link in Cytherea's article from her own website to one called onlygonzo dot com (I'm not going to give this user the pleasure of allowing even accidental click-thrus). Presumably 83.160.38.218 has an interest in this website, which is clearly a commercial entity given that you have to have made a payment to "Deluxe Pass" to gain entrance to it. As Joe says, blatant hypocrisy. Besides, if Wikipedia were to block links to "commercial websites", does that mean we should remove all links to websites that have a commercial aspect to it, even those that have ads on them for whatever? If so, there goes all of the links from Wikipedia to pages at the IMDB, TV.com, Amazon ... Tabercil 23:33, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
- Comment Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. We cover everything from mass murders to fictional characters to sciences -- in essence the entire human spectrum, per se, no matter what moral judgments people hold. Given your edit history on the article in question, your point of not inserting commercial websites into Wikipedia strikes a bit as hypocrisy, don't you think? And, just for future information, articles for deletion votes are not about you -- it is about the subject at hand, which is the pornographic actress and not your potential ability to "come up with a name flower and add my naked pics and thos things to the category flower"... which, to be honest, doesn't seem to make sense to me on some level... -- Joe Beaudoin Jr. Think out loud 01:54, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
- Keep according to WP:BIO. Over 900,000 hits most of which aren't relevant to Greek mythology. [1]
Apparently well-known for her ejaculations. Our article states she won AVN award. Clearly notable in her field. Capitalistroadster 19:40, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Her listing at IMDB confirms notability. BTW - I'm typing this with one hand because the other one's holding my nose...porn related articles have a certain stench about them, but are obviously admissible if notable. PJM 19:54, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. I don't think I've ever disagreed with JzG,yk? but this "actress" has almost 150 titles to her credit. Ifnord 20:16, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
- comment: nopbody's perfect :-) See, it's my fault for typing the name (using both hands) instead of copying & pasting. Obviously I should be able to remember the name, being a geek and all... oh, but wait, I'm the stereotype-busting geek-with-wife-kids-and-mortgage. Ah well. Just zis Guy, you know? [T]/[C] (W) AfD? 21:04, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
- Keep as per PJM and Ifnord. The JPS 21:06, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
- Keep Won an AVN award as capitalistroadster stated. Notable in her "field" of having sex on camera... --J. Nguyen 22:14, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Notable in her genre. 23skidoo 22:19, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
- Keep, per Capitalistroadster. BD2412 T 02:29, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
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- Comment: Not wishing to seem argumentative, but I really do feel that we should consign porn "stars" who have not crossed into the mainstream to a separate namespace. Pornucopia? I bet that's taken. Anyway, I know there is a thriving "adult entertainment" industry, but honestly, few of those figures get anywhere close to the wider notability of minor political figures who we delete like a shot. Lolo Ferrari got a lot of notice outside the adult movie
wankwatching community due to Eurotrash, which was (sort of) mainstream, but for most of us these articles are no more verifiable than, say, an underground band. - Just zis Guy, you know? [T]/[C] (W) AfD? 12:53, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
- Comment: Not wishing to seem argumentative, but I really do feel that we should consign porn "stars" who have not crossed into the mainstream to a separate namespace. Pornucopia? I bet that's taken. Anyway, I know there is a thriving "adult entertainment" industry, but honestly, few of those figures get anywhere close to the wider notability of minor political figures who we delete like a shot. Lolo Ferrari got a lot of notice outside the adult movie
- Keep Porn notability seems no different from pokemon notability. Award-winning within your field (and the AVN awards are the standard in the industry) seems to be an okay standard, no? Otherwise I'd suggest cult following, and widely recognized entertainmnet personality as hittongthe WP:BIO standards. Jessamyn 17:45, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
- Keep You want to argue that certain porn stars out there don't deserve article, OK, but this one seems to be more deserving than any of them. She even won an AVN Award (equal to an oscar in the porn world. 67.186.145.68 20:54, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
- Keep Ditto. -- Joe Beaudoin Jr. Think out loud 21:59, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
- Keep I agree in that Cytherea seems to have a higher level of prominence than most stars, as evidenced by the AVN award. Besides, it'd leave a sour taste in my mouth to see the ongoing censorship/vandalism being done by 83.160.38.218 rewarded with the article disappearing altogether (check the history of the Cytherea article since the start of the month). Tabercil 22:56, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
- Keep Wikipedia is supposed to cover the good and the bad...I think she's famous enough to deserve a spot.--Spydermonkie 03:46, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
