Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CyclePat

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. - Mailer Diablo 01:20, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] CyclePat

  • Delete. Vanity page written by CyclePat himself. Non-notable. A shop that has a prototype and that is it cannot really be considered notable. Also, it's advertising and a personal essay, not an encyclopedia article. On the talk page, CyclePat claims that he's part of the movement to get PABs registered for road use in Ontario. The problem is that, that doesn't show notability since the PAB movement in Ontario isn't even notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Delete please. Woohookitty(cat scratches) 11:55, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:CORP - "produces on a small scale, 1 to 2 electric motor assisted bikes a year." - Just zis Guy, you know? [T]/[C] :: AfD? 13:06, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Non-notable. *drew 14:20, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete per nomination GhostGirl 15:45, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep Like the MMIC (motorcycle and moped industry council) or like (amenesty international) CyclePat promotes equality rights, educational material, legal advice, and on the side CyclePat's is developing / (has produces) it's first prototype PAB through much R&D. This is a imerging company, that is politically inclined, profiding free legal council to residents all over America, ensuring prompt and fair trials (to users of such vehicles), developing policy for larger organisation such as the "electric vehicle coucil of Ottawa", or the "Cycle Ontario Alliance". The influence of CyclePat's has been notable in the Ottawa municipal government by it support in the creation of a letter to the ontario government for supporting the use of PABs (for on road) in Ottawa. Essentially recognizing such vehicles in Ottawa. This article could be a sub-article of electric bicycle laws or manufacture. --CyclePat 17:35, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment Um, Pat? "Emerging company" = not notable. If you are just growing and emerging now, the shop isn't notable. Could you see an encyclopedia like the Brittanica or even a bicycle encyclopedia listing an "emerging company"? I can't. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 17:48, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
    • comment: Has been in business for more than 10 months, making a notable presence in many other organisation and the government. Also may I suggest those that are voting take a look at discusion of the previous attempt to speedy delete. I believe I expressed my opinion that woohookitty is taking this as a personal crusade because he's mad at the edit war that exist at electric bicycle. --CyclePat 17:54, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
Um Pat? Your article is a vanity article. It was written by you to promote your shop. That defines vanity. There is no notability here. You've built one bike and it's only a prototype. The spelling and grammar in your article is awful. This has nothing to do with an edit war. Besides, see those votes up there? Those are people who have nothing to do with the edit war and yet they believe that the article is non-notable and vanity. I'm not mad at you. If I was mad at you, then why do I keep trying to help you? That has nothing to do with this. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 18:00, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Indeed. I have no prior interest whatsoever. I judged the page by its "merits" according to published criteria (e.g. WP:CORP and WP:VAIN). The verdict is clear. There are many companies which have been in business more than a whole year and which have more than one example of their product, they are still not notable. If you want to see the path to notability from a garden shed one-by-one cycle making business check out Brompton Bicycle. - Just zis Guy, you know? [T]/[C] :: AfD? 18:08, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
Never heard of brompton Bicycle, learn something new everyday. What makes this company notable?--CyclePat 20:49, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Strongly agreed. No prior interest here either, but being in business 'more than 10 months' isn't a claim to fame. Noone is saying this venture isn't good, just that it's not had the impact required to merit inclusion in an encyclopedia. Previous edit wars are irrelevant, the article will stand or fall on its own merits according to published criteria. GhostGirl 18:29, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
Let me remind everyone that it is easily possible on wikipedia to make sock pupets to place a vote. And let me also remind you that the "importance" and influence of the company is a key issue at stake. (not how long you've been in business) Segway is a pretty new (imerging) company . Again, the social political importance is something to take into consideration. We wouldn't delete Place d'Orleans or Paradigm Electronics. Perhaps we might remove any bias information but deleting these articles seems hardly reasonable. The same for CyclePat. I believe that it is a manufacturing company that has much influence. (It's seems like woohookit has brought this subject on going from extreme measures (fast delete) to gradually less extreme (delete)) Perhaps this article only needs some discussion to clarify any miss-understandings? --CyclePat 20:39, 6 November 2005 (UTC) --CyclePat 21:01, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
Finally I would like to say that: Notability is not necessarily wiki policy procedure for the deletion of an article. (see this--CyclePat 21:11, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
Uh huh. And which part of WP:CORP -- the relevant guidelines -- does it fall under?
  • Delete. Minor company, at best. --Calton | Talk 01:04, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Self-promoting vanity, sock-puppet accusation in this case absurd. CyclePat: A little less talking and more listening would help. If your company sells 10 million bicycles, then we'll see. Ryoung122 01:50, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Self-promo. Allow this and you are on the way to AdWikiPedia the Online Directory of Every Company in the Cosmos, written by that company and for that company. It's great, but it's not encylopaedic. Gonegonegone 17:11, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete; vanity, nn minor company. MCB 08:05, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.