Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CyGamZ

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedily deleted as A7/G11. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 08:21, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CyGamZ

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Article is about a non-notable, single location gaming center. Extent of it's notability appears to be as a test business venture for a large corporation. JPG-GR 06:38, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

This article is notable as it marks a movement in an American company away from traditional means of staying viable. The same lack of notability could be said for Ford's Quadricycle as a precursor to the model A. I believe the CyGamZ company information article should not be deleted simply because it is a test venture for a large, privately held corporation. With the dominance of businesses similar to this in Asia and the rapid growth of this industry in the states, this article is relevant to today's entertainment industry. Thank you for the consideration. 69.136.146.146 18:36, 25 October 2007 (UTC) — 69.136.146.146 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

• Comment The Ford Quadricycle is notable because it was Henry Ford's "first experimental automobile," which then lead to the production of MANY more. As this gaming center hasn't proven itself to be the precursor to anything yet, it is non-notable. Moreover, I'm yet to see any evidence that this CyGamZ is a company - it appears to merely be the name of a single location. In time, perhaps more will pop up, but at this time, it's arguably no different than "Mama Pizarro's Home Style Pizza" down the street. JPG-GR 04:26, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

lol, Dominos pizza started off small and now has it's own wikipedia page. The difference is that the Redstone family is in (or near) the top 10 wealthiest family in the US. With the Redstone's experimenting on a concept that is thriving in Europe and Asia here in the states is noteworthy. Whether the concept succeeds or fails, it is noteworthy enough to deserve it's company information with NAI.JetBlackDog75 16:26, 26 October 2007 (UTC) — JetBlackDog75 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Comment Yes, but are there articles on test business ventures from Domino's Pizza. Not that I can find. Someday, if successful, this venture may warrant an article. As of right now, it's non-notable. At the very best, there should be a sentence or two on this venture at National Amusements. Just because the Redstone family is famous doesn't mean every new idea they come up with noteworthy. JPG-GR 16:58, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

lol - There was a brief description at National Amusements, but you deleted it siting "spam link - this site is about the parent company, not any of its subsidiaries". It's funny that we are saying almost the same thing but have 2 totally different opinions of it. I've attended the facility as well as it's local competition and found it to be noteworthy. I am very new to this site and I'm learning alot from this experience. I respect your opinion and realize there is very little I can do to change your mind on the topic. If there is any assistance on what would be appropriate on the NAI wiki, I would value the input. JetBlackDog75 20:38, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I removed an external link to the CyGamZ website as no mention of CyGamZ was, at that time, mentioned in the article, barring its listing in the Infobox. There's a difference between an external link and a sentence or two explaining what it is. JPG-GR 21:18, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

That would seem logical if you didn't delete anything related to CyGamZ off of the National Amusements page over and over again. PeRshGo 04:51, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

I reviewed the history of the NAI wiki an found where pershgo had sentence on the subject and sited his sources. In my revision, I listed the national amusements gaming website as cygamz.com. A simple whois of that site shows NAI to be the owner of cygamz. JPG-GR, you are being horribly inconsistent. Can we agree on either A) listing cygamz under the NAI wiki with sources sited or B) a separate wiki siting it's own sources and siting the NAI wiki. This topic has already received far more attention than is warranted to simply list company information. JetBlackDog75 17:51, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

I have no issue with info in the National Amusements page as long as it remains NPOV and doesn't sound like spam. JPG-GR 18:15, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.