Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Curtis Osano (second nomination)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep Curtis Osano and Viktor Illugason, Delete Gylfi Sigurðsson. Davewild (talk) 11:49, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Curtis Osano
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Not played in a fully professional league (cup is not a league), which appears to be the guidance followed re footballers. Anon's can't complete the process, but this should prevent deletion before discussion. 128.240.229.67 (talk) 09:34, 25 February 2008 (UTC) Copied from talk page. ➔ REDVEЯS knows how Joan of Arc felt 13:14, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- The same editor has nominated Gylfi Sigurðsson and Viktor Illugason for the same reasons as above; since this is broadly the same subject, I'm tying all these three nominations into this one. ➔ REDVEЯS knows how Joan of Arc felt 13:22, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. GiantSnowman (talk) 13:39, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Keep Osano and Illugason, delete Sigurdsson - see original AFD for Osano, he has played in the FA Cup and therefore meets notability requirements. Illugason has played for Breiðablik UBK, but Sigurdsson seems to have made no first-team appearances. GiantSnowman (talk) 13:39, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Keep Osano and Illugason, delete Sigurðsson. Curtis Osano played in an FA Cup match between two professional teams (Reading vs Birmingham City on 27 January 2007). Viktor Illugason played for Breiðablik in the Icelandic top flight. Gylfi Sigurðsson does not appear to have played for Breiðablik's first team, so should be deleted for now. robwingfield «T•C» 15:22, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - The argument re Osano contradicts your arguments used previously re players who've only played cup games...WikiGull (talk) 08:39, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- However, those articles have been kept. If the consensus is that cup games between professional teams confer notability, then that consensus should be applied here. My own opinion is irrelevant. If we're talking my own opinion, I think anyone that's played for a Premier League club should be notable, whether league or cup, and anyone who's played a league match for a fully professional club (and not necessarily in a fully professional league) should be notable. But those are my notability levels, not Wikipedia's. robwingfield «T•C» 09:20, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - The argument re Osano contradicts your arguments used previously re players who've only played cup games...WikiGull (talk) 08:39, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Illugason unless someone can show that Icelandic teams are fully professional - I highly doubt so. Punkmorten (talk) 20:42, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - I think it would be harsh to state that Icelandic players must move abroad before we deem them notable! Is there any precedent for top flight leagues that are not fully professional? I don't think the Belgian First Division is fully professional, but it would be ridiculous to state that Anderlecht players aren't notable! robwingfield «T•C» 21:18, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Harsh? The line has to go somewhere, and Iceland is a really small country. At best, a small handful of clubs are professional but until someone confirms so, they're pretty non-notable. Punkmorten (talk) 19:03, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - I think it would be harsh to state that Icelandic players must move abroad before we deem them notable! Is there any precedent for top flight leagues that are not fully professional? I don't think the Belgian First Division is fully professional, but it would be ridiculous to state that Anderlecht players aren't notable! robwingfield «T•C» 21:18, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Keep Osano and Illugason, delete Sigurdsson per GiantSnowman and Robwingfield. John Hayestalk 14:33, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- Guys, those of you saying the Sigurdsson never played in Iceland should check this out: http://community.sigames.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5732091743/m/6092047743/p/3 Use "Ctrl" +F, and enter the word "please" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.144.205.12 (talk) 14:44, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
- That link provides no evidence that senior (i.e. not youth) appearances were made for Breiðablik, it merely suggests that they were. Unless someone can provide a link to show that he has made a senior appearance, the evidence points to the contrary. robwingfield «T•C» 16:41, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
- Exactly - an anonymous user typing "believe he made senior apps for the club" on a forum is a tad short of what we consider a reliable source........... ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:50, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
- That link provides no evidence that senior (i.e. not youth) appearances were made for Breiðablik, it merely suggests that they were. Unless someone can provide a link to show that he has made a senior appearance, the evidence points to the contrary. robwingfield «T•C» 16:41, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
