Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Criticisms of libertarian socialism

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 02:57, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Criticisms of libertarian socialism

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Appears to be completely original research or some essay with basically no sourcing. Was made by just one person and left fallow afterwards. Appears to be just randomly made up criticisms/original research. Delete. • Lawrence Cohen 15:43, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Appears to be a split-off and poorly written/original research criticism section of Libertarian socialism in hindsight. Delete, any worthwhile content can always be integrated back into the parent article. • Lawrence Cohen 15:54, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

• Delete unless the many "citation needed" tags can be replaced by proper footnotes (then I'd change my vote). The only things actually footnoted are already in the criticisms section of Libertarian socialism. Noroton 16:08, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
• Comment various editors had made unreferenced, drive-by additions to the criticisms section in libertarian socialism. People couldn't figure out what all the edits meant, let alone whether they were OR, so the section got copied to the criticisms page and the unreferenced material got purged from the libertarian socialism page. Jacob Haller 17:13, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
• Delete drive-by POV smearing from the Randian playbook with no effort to balance, "write for the enemy", or even attribute its own claims. "It might also be worth noting that Libertarianism is a strictly anti-coercion philosophy, whereas any form of Collectivism relies on the use of force to ensure that people do not accumulate anymore wealth than dictated by the society" is a typical example of how bad this piece is. Eleland 18:21, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as POV fork. If any good material has come to light, or is wanted by editors, by the end of the discussion, then make it available for merging into libertarian socialism. Sheffield Steel^talkers_stalkers 18:56, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

All the sourced information from this forked Criticisms article is already in the main article. • Lawrence Cohen 19:27, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

That makes the case much simpler, in my opinion. I still think we ought to leave the door open for any late contributions to be retained, if they are judged to be of value. Sheffield Steel^talkers_stalkers 21:06, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

• delete per above--Sefringle^Talk 03:09, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per original research Corpx 03:39, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as per above. BobFromBrockley 15:11, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - as per above- and I also think that inclusions of criticisms of libertarian socialism should be making explicit references to known libertarian socialist texts, rather than just being composited libertarian capitalist criticisms of non-market and non-capitalist economic and ethical systems - otherwise we will invariably end up with a stew of uninformed straw-man assertions that contribute nothing valuable to an understanding of libertarian socialism.BernardL 08:48, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.