Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Criticisms of Mustafa Kemal Ataturk

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. --Ixfd64 00:13, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Criticisms of Mustafa Kemal Ataturk

A complete mess of an article, POV, lies.... The 'sources' appear to be dead links Armanalp 16:42, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

• I think the article should be kept and expanded or merged into Mustafa Kemal Ataturk --AW 20:02, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
  • have you read the article?Armanalp 20:11, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Yes, it needs expansion. I'm sure there are more valid critcisms of him, but they aren't in that page. --AW 20:24, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
      • There isn't anything in the page (including its history) that's worth saving, and we don't need this page for the purposes of expansion. Any additional facets of this person not already addressed in what we already have can be addressed neutrally in Mustafa Kemal Ataturk. We don't need this non-neutral fork. "Criticism of X" titles are bad ideas for article titles. They are one-sided by their very construction, which leads directly to non-neutrality. Uncle G 20:47, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
• Strong delete - as Uncle G has said, anything that's been here before (as in, before what appears to be a nationalist IP editing spree) can be merged with the man himself. If and when the list of criticisms gets larger, then we can hive them off to a separate article. Before then, it's a moot point. Additionally, the original draft of all of this contains serious errors of historical fact - Kemal had no leadership position in the Young Turks, although he certainly subscribed to their ideology. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 22:36, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per Uncle G, Big Haz. Angus McLellan (Talk) 10:04, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - Unless it can be fully sourced, it is WP:NPOV by definition. --Nehwyn 09:29, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per Uncle G. Pavel Vozenilek 23:32, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per Armanalp. E104421 23:57, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. There's already some mention of criticism in the Atatürk article anyways. Khoikhoi 01:21, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.