Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cream (software)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. Navou banter 02:00, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cream (software)

Cream (software) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

A pile of Vim scripts with no assertion of notability. —ptk✰fgs 21:51, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

User:Ptkfgs has undisclosed bias in recommending deletion of this article, his own Wikipedia user page bears a banner for the Vim text editor. (The whole point of the article for deletion in question is that it is a working commentary of the Vim user interface.)
I'd also like to add that Cream has been referenced by a third parties unknown to me for at least 5 years and countless references to date. Given the state of the Editor War, I'd like to propose that the Cream article remain in lieu of being merged or deleted, especially by someone without Neutral point of view. -- Digitect 01:45, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
I have never used it and have no opinion on the software. The Vim article is on my watchlist, and after noting a discussion of Cream on the talk page, I examined the article and found that it contains no assertion of notability. Wikipedia is not a software directory and we must limit our coverage of software to those items for which multiple non-trivial reliable sources attest notability. This is not the first software-related article I've nominated for deletion, and my nomination should not be misinterpreted as a judgement on the quality of the software itself. Thanks. —ptk✰fgs 14:20, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. I'm confused, wouldn't a user with an emacs (not a vim) button have a POV problem? But I guess, you are saying there is an "editor war" between vim and cream just like between vi and emacs? Anyway, as long as this won't help with WP:N, it shouldn't matter. The articles on itworld.com and linux.com ([1][2]) mentioned in the article are both non trivial, reliable sources, as far as I can tell, so no reason to delete the article because of notability concerns. There's also quite a few somewhat more trivial mentions turning up in google, e.g. [3] lists it as one of two possible linux alternatives to notepad and describes it a bit. Likely more can be found. Of course, the article is just a stub and could need some work, so I'd also see no big problem with merging and redirecting this to the vim article - no AfD needed for doing so though. --Allefant 11:00, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. I found the information useful, especially the external links. There is no point in deleting it. (B.Meerdink) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.87.25.180 (talk) 12:20, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

Relisted to gain better consensus Computerjoe's talk 12:26, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.