Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crank 2
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Wizardman 18:00, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Crank 2
2009 is a little WP:CRYSTALly at this point, especially with only one actor named. Producers have said there's going to be a Crank 2, but not much else ([1]) shoy 17:51, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. I agree, infringes WP:CRYSTAL and, frankly, the only point that's made in this brief article, that Crank 2 will star Jason Statham, I find hard to believe -- his character dies at the end of Crank, unambiguously. And any prequel would be Crank 0, wouldn't it? Accounting4Taste 18:08, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- Delete I agree Accounting4taste. STORMTRACKER 94 20:03, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Actually Statham doesn't 'unambiguously' die at the end of Crank, he opens his eyes and there's clearly another heartbeat right at the end, leaving the possibility that he's still alive. If the producers have said there's going to be another film, and that Statham has been named as a participant, then there's something to start an article with. Nick mallory 00:18, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
- Comment Okay, I thought he died by falling from a great height, but you could be right. The original source, though, at [2] says "I have no idea how on earth they can even think about this. The ONLY possible way to do it is with another main character. And that hardly ever works. Switching actors is one thing… switching main characters for a sequel (Ahhemm… Speed 2) is another thing all together. Aside from that… the only thing I can think of is a prequel." But to my surprise, Rotten Tomatoes says it's going to be a sequel.[3] Since I like Jason Statham's work, that was a pleasant surprise. Accounting4Taste 00:58, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
- Comment IRL, people have survived falls from greater heights... but that character is supposed to die from the drug cocktail anyway, according to the doctor in the movie. 132.205.44.5 21:49, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
- Comment The fact that another movie is confirmed is probably better dealt with as a sentence in Crank since there's no way this article can say any more at this point. When more details are released, the article can be spun out then. shoy 12:31, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
- Comment WP:MOVIE says: "Films which have not been confirmed by reliable sources to have commenced shooting should not have their own articles. Until then discussion of the film may be included in articles about the film's subject material. Sources need to confirm the start of shooting after shooting has begun. Additionally, films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should not have their own articles, unless the production itself is notable per notability guidelines." So I will look forward to seeing this film, but not change my "vote" from delete. Accounting4Taste 20:28, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
- Comment IIRC, the producers have said that everything after he smokes the whatever the cabbie gives him is a dream sequence. I saw that on an interview site. 132.205.44.5 21:49, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
- Keep I know I'm no one, but this is 100 percent confirmed to be happening. [4] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.152.254.24 (talk) 02:26, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Doesn't matter what you think, its confirmed true, Don't bother deleting this article, well just have to re-instate it immediately. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.178.136.87 (talk) 06:55, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- Comment Okay, I thought he died by falling from a great height, but you could be right. The original source, though, at [2] says "I have no idea how on earth they can even think about this. The ONLY possible way to do it is with another main character. And that hardly ever works. Switching actors is one thing… switching main characters for a sequel (Ahhemm… Speed 2) is another thing all together. Aside from that… the only thing I can think of is a prequel." But to my surprise, Rotten Tomatoes says it's going to be a sequel.[3] Since I like Jason Statham's work, that was a pleasant surprise. Accounting4Taste 00:58, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
- Delete - At this stage a non-notable and speculative article. Accounting4Taste has already highlighted the relevant wording from WP:MOVIE. Others have asserted that the movie is definitely going to be made, but in the absence of sources such as a studio announcement this constitutes original research and does not justify the article. Even if a studio announcement was made, WP:MUSIC also states states: "films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should not have their own articles, unless the production itself is notable". Lastly, the article principally consists of a lengthy public quote - nothing irreplaceable would be lost if this article was deleted and then recreated if/when the movie is made and released. Euryalus 01:14, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
