Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cosmic Disco

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep -- Samir 03:25, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cosmic Disco

Cosmic (Italian dance music scene) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

This article deals with Cosmic disco and Cosmic music, two not established terms if they're referred to as (a) music genre(s); references and the article itself refer to re-mixing techniques and associated music selections, also known in DJs' slang as "selecta", that were aimed to comply with the name of the nightclub (Cosmic); it's and it was not a real music scene, NOT a style of music at all Doktor Who 16:52, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per WP:V. The article is sourced, but the sources I read did not mention Cosmic Disco. 24.176.25.116 18:44, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

I wrote a lot of this article. I'm not going to stick my neck out too far for it because it is pretty shitty, but for anybody else who's reading, all but one of the sources (Pitchfork) mentions "cosmic disco" or one of the other variants listed in the first sentence.--P4k 01:35, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Also please note that one of the referenced interviews reports D. Baldelli stating "that there is no 'cosmic disco' genre". If the article subject (D. Baldelli) meets notability, the content may be referred to his personal "formats" and selection/remixing techniques.--Doktor Who 21:42, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Which reference are you referring to? There aren't any interviews with Baldelli in the references. There's one in the "Links" section, but it's behind a registration wall now. One of the references is an article about Beppe Loda where he says something similar to that, maybe that's what you're talking about.--P4k 22:26, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

• Merge (or keep until appropriate merge is determined) - Ugh, music genres are so ill defined. The above anon editor is completely wrong about about the sources - all of them mention "cosmic disco" or whatever, with at least two attempting to define it. I don't know what an appropriate merge target would be at this time. The term seems to be used both as a vague, general descriptor for funky spacey dance music and as a more specific genre term. Wickethewok 03:14, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't think there's really anything appropriate to merge it to. I mean the most specific subject that cosmic (in the sense of the 1980s Italian scene described in this article) could be considered a part of is something like dance music, and it's obviously not important enough to rate a mention there. If this is deleted I might try to rework it into an article about Daniele Baldelli, which would at least not involve the bullshit that accompanies trying to write about music genres.--P4k 03:24, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

• Keep per WP:HEY. The topic is somewhat obscure, but it meets WP:N and WP:V. I don't know if it's a "music genre" or a "scene", but it is a form of music combined with a group of people in a time and place that became notable enough for mention in the press and at least a few books. On the search term "cosmic disco", Google has 36,200 hits, and Googel books comes up with 7. --Parsifal _Hello 21:34, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

And did you poll how many of those google results are relevant to the subject of this article? ok, please go here, where we can find the most relevant results.Just 115, not so many, not enough to meet notability. Over.Doktor Who 22:04, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Both of those searches are misleading, but google hits are not that relevant anyway.--P4k 22:17, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I did not mean to imply that I did any research on the article. I have not. My point was only that there is information available that can be checked out. That's what I meant by referring to WP:HEY. If you read that essay, you'll see what I meant.

I'm not debating about if the article should be kept or not, I just did a bit a checking, looked at some of the references, and it seemed to me it's a nice little article that can be improved, on an obscure but notable enough topic. There was a cosmic disco scene in Italy and some people wrote about it. That's as far as I went. --Parsifal _Hello 22:42, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

really, the content itself may meet some (low) notability, but I'm sure it can't stay here as a music genre, or even a music scene, just remix format maybe could suit well. What do you think?Doktor Who 23:10, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't know enough about the topic to answer that. This is just a deletion discussion. I think we should keep the article, and I believe it can be improved. Your idea could make the article better though, maybe it would be a good idea for you to edit the article or bring that up on the talk page. --Parsifal _Hello 00:20, 22 August 2007 (UTC).

My main concern here and in many similar cases is mis-categorization; if the article will not refer anymore to a supposed music genre or style, I have no objection, it can be kept on ikipedia. The most appropriate categories could be "DJ mix techniques" and "DJing styles": If they do not exist, can be created, for some ideas please see the not-so-much-unrelated {{Category:Radio formats}} and List of music radio formats.Doktor Who 00:51, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CitiCat ^♫ 19:30, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.