Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cory Phillips
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Sango123 00:16, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Cory Phillips
- Delete. Self-promotional (see creator's username and record company), debut album comes out this fall, not famous yet. We are not a promotional vehicle. -- nae'blis 03:47, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- Artist's label created the page, yes. But, as far as the debut album coming out this fall, I didn't know that such promotional information is prohibited, and to prevent the page from being deleted, the info was changed. To counter your suggestion that including a listing of Cory Phillips is somehow inappropriate because he is not famous yet to your specification, phillips is a very popular live musician in Los Angeles. And what difference does it make whether or not there is a commercial music product for sale to validate him to you? Does participation in the capitalist system only validate a public figure on Wikipedia? I did not think so. Thermalrecords 06:45, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- Participation in the "capitalist system" isn't strictly necessary, but the bar for inclusion for most people is much higher without a major label/produced well-selling record. See WP:MUSIC for some of the suggestions: was he featured in multiple non-trivial published works (such as LA papers, music trade magazines of record, etc)? Was he ever in a notable band prior to his current "supergroup" (or was anyone else)? Has he won a major music award or competition, and do you have proof as it is reported in the press? Is he the most prominent representative of a notable style of music, and has this been reported as such? You have options, and you have at least four days to make your case...thanks for trimming the article already of the promotional material, and welcome to Wikipedia! Cheers, and as noted below, if his record takes off and he does become more famous this fall, it's intensely likely a fan will come and write an article for you! -- nae'blis 12:57, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- Artist's label created the page, yes. But, as far as the debut album coming out this fall, I didn't know that such promotional information is prohibited, and to prevent the page from being deleted, the info was changed. To counter your suggestion that including a listing of Cory Phillips is somehow inappropriate because he is not famous yet to your specification, phillips is a very popular live musician in Los Angeles. And what difference does it make whether or not there is a commercial music product for sale to validate him to you? Does participation in the capitalist system only validate a public figure on Wikipedia? I did not think so. Thermalrecords 06:45, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. Promo; WP:NOT a crystal ball ("Fates willing, the release will see success sufficient to garner the interest of a major label"). Daniel Case 03:49, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- If that was an issue, it has been changed. Thermalrecords 06:45, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - self promotional, not notable. Leuko 04:14, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- Not notable to who? Cory Phillips and his nine-piece band are notable to a lot of people in Los Angeles who regularly pay money to see them perform. Thermalrecords 06:45, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- See nae'blis's response above. Notability is fairly well-defined here. Daniel Case 13:38, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- Not notable to who? Cory Phillips and his nine-piece band are notable to a lot of people in Los Angeles who regularly pay money to see them perform. Thermalrecords 06:45, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, suspected WP:VANITY, no WP:RS indicating subject meets WP:MUSIC. --Kinu t/c 04:15, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- Point taken. Understand this to be the first attempt at creating a wikipedia page. It has been edited to include just the facts. Thermalrecords 06:45, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- Delete — Real bands don't need a myspace profile mboverload@ 04:30, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Wryspy 04:50, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete — {{db-bio}} - Glen 05:45, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- Strong Delete Promo. WP:NOT soapbox. Ohconfucius 09:21, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- Harsh words, mboverload! I tend to agree... but then we have things like this. As for Mr Phillips, delete, promo, get out there and get famous(er), we'll write the article for you. — riana_dzasta • t • c • e • ER • 09:48, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- Delete NN, vanity, and probably a few other reasons. StuffOfInterest 14:03, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, not notable yet. NawlinWiki 14:10, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- Delete nn. —Khoikhoi 22:19, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- Delete .... for now... looking at the amount of cross-site self promotion, I expect an entry back in here fairly soon, once he/they've busted their butts on a national tour (probably the easiest way to meet WP:MUSIC while furthering one's career, or looked at from another perspective, the easiest way to destroy a band. :-) ) Good luck to Cory and Thermal! Ronabop 03:09, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
