Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Conversation opener

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete Gnangarra 00:55, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Note, this AFD was overturned at DRV, because the article changed too much for most of the opinions to still be valid. The article could be AFD'ed again immediately if desired. GRBerry 02:09, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Conversation opener

Conversation opener (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Wikipedia isn't a How-to or a dictionary. There is also the possibility of masked advertising with a company's name used prominently in the article for no apparent reason. Author removed prod WebHamster 01:30, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

*Delete per above. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 02:04, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Merge and redirect Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 13:26, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete WP:HOWTO -- Anonymous DissidentTalk 02:11, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Slightly smells of an advertisement, since the second sentence mentions the same company listed in the first external links, as well as all the reasons described above. Ariel♥Gold 02:15, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Wikipedia is not a hoe-to guide nor is it to be used for advertising. --Hdt83 Chat 05:03, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - WP:HOWTO definitely applies. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 07:18, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
  • What's a nice author like you doing in a place like this? This is something that should have been written by someone who had more to say after the first sentence. Mandsford 12:43, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete or merge to conversation, does not deserve its own article. JIP | Talk 12:49, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete as per WP:NOT#HOWTO Tbo 157talk 10:55, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. It was not intended as advertisement; I was just in a hurry and picked a few links to use. It's kind of a hard line to tread sometimes – links have to be included in order for it not to count as original research, but their inclusion can make it seem like spam. Captain Zyrain 18:32, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge with pick-up line. This may be the more appropriate title to redirect to, as the more generic term. If you disagree, merge to conversation, but its an encyclopedic topic. 74.92.148.250 19:04, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
    • I think it's the reverse – a pickup line is a type of conversation opener. Captain Zyrain 19:08, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
      • Is that like a letter opener but slower and needs a stamp? --WebHamster 20:04, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

*Comment. All right, if you are going to list this as AfD, then I am going to list cover letter, because both articles, while they are about subjects important in our society and of likely interest to readers, are/were also written in a "how-to"-like tone. Captain Zyrain 19:57, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Comment - As is your right as an editor, but it should be said that there is likely to be less accusations of a bad faith nomination had you done it before this article came to AfD. Your credibility as a nominator would be higher too. Just an FYI. As it happens you are probably right, it should be binned, just not in a fit of pique. --WebHamster 20:04, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Request - A few days extension of the AfD due to the belated rewrite. Captain Zyrain 20:43, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
  • LOUD SUPPORT FOR REQUEST. --Kizor 23:48, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.