Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Conker Pong
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 04:53, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Conker Pong
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Prod removed by author. Article is about a beer pong variation made up at a bar. Wildthing61476 14:56, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- Delete should be speedied. Bobby1011 15:03, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- Delete - WP:MADEUP - Dougie WII 15:26, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- Comment This assumption is factually incorrect. It was not made up in a bar (are there conkers in bars usually?!) and was witnessed by hundreds of people in Munich during Oktoberfest. It was also participated in by around 50 people, making it, in my opinion a significant event ... especially as it was done in the confines of the Englisher Garten in Munich - not a huge area, maybe with room for only 500 or so people.What needs to be found/shown in order to make this article valid?Brettstirling 15:57, 2 November 2007 (UTC)— Brettstirling (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
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- Reply All you need to do to meet the notability guidelines is to provide links to verify that this is widely played. Newspaper and magazine articles will be fine. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 16:00, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Reply I don't see how a drinking game invented just about a month ago could possibly be widely played and notable. Dougie WII —Preceding comment was added at 16:28, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- Comment Ok guys, as I am new to Wikipedia, would you be good enough to give me a few days to collect some data and documentation to link to. Some pictures of our family involved in the game, and some notes etc.??? Hugh abu 17:35, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Reply None of those things are at all useful. You need reliable sources, like the newspaper articles that were written about this activity, or the books that have been written about it. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 17:05, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- Delete - beer pong can be played outdoors, and this is a thing made up one day --AW 17:09, 2 November 2007 (UTC)$
- Comment I am working on reliable sources such as newspapers. I was simply suggesting that adding some pictures of people involved in the sport through the years may also be of use. If not then I apologise. Please have some understanding of the fact that I am working hard to establish this page which is based on a sport my grandfather introduced me to in Manchester over 30 years ago. Hugh abu 17:35, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- Comment This is the competition my family usually enters: http://www.hentyarms.co.uk/id7.html Hugh abu 17:34, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- Question How did this go from a game "first devised" in September, 2007 [1] to one that "has been enjoyed for many generations all over the UK."? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dougie WII (talk • contribs) 17:43, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- Answer I am not related to the writer of the article. The writer of the article is clear attempting to stake claim to the invention of the game. However, the game is well established and a famour UK drinking game. Hugh abu 17:55, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- Delete Not a sport I, as an Englishman, have heard of, despite numerous claims that it is recognised throughout the UK. The second link there also contains a bizarre bad faith assumption in "Again, a simple case of the US considering itself superior". It is obviously a made up game, and not one with any notability, and the only non-WP occurrence of the term on the internet appears to be this request (registration required) from earlier today for people to "save" the article. --Dreaded Walrus t c 18:14, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- Delete I'm disinclined to believe this is truly a popular game, enjoyed by generations, etc. In fact it reeks of some random game made up by friends at the bar one day. But even if accepted at face value, it wouldn't be notable enough for an article of its own anyway. We don't need an article on every beer pong variation under the sun. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 20:35, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- If it's a variant on beer pong and the author can provide notable, reliable secondary sources to prove that, then it can perhaps have a bit in the beer pong article. Delete this, however. Tony Fox (arf!) 20:40, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- Delete 'Conkers' is a long standing traditional game familiar to every English child for perhaps hundreds of years. 'Conker pong' on the other hand is bollocks. Nick mallory 06:29, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
- Delete' per WP:MADEUP. Doctorfluffy 23:10, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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