Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Colegio Ponceño

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. -- RG2 01:42, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Colegio Ponceño

Colegio Ponceño (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Non-notable school. I am aware that this one may have been able to be speedy deleted (no context) but since they are related I thought I'd put them together in this AfD. Rjd0060 04:14, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following non-notable school:

Caribbean School (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

- Rjd0060 04:15, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Soft Delete It seems to be an established consensus that high schools generally should not have their own articles, though school districts are usually treated as notable. Unless evidence is presented that these schools are notable, I'm leaning toward deletion. Life, Liberty, Property 06:54, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep- quite the opposite, it has been established high schools are automatically presumed notable.JJJ999 07:26, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Please do not misstate policy or guidelines. Per WP:OUTCOMES high schools are usually kept; that is all. --Dhartung | Talk 11:43, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
That is effectively what I said.JJJ999 13:05, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Comment: The information in these articles, does not make the schools notable, at all. So what if they are "established" (fancy word for "in existence"). WP: OUTCOMES does not say that high schools should be kept. It says they usually are. A lot of high schools also have a lot more notability (I know, most do not), something which is evidently lacking here. There is no reason to keep these schools, especially Colegio Ponceño. - Rjd0060 13:47, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, W.marsh 17:10, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per WP:OUTCOMES with the hope that it can be expanded, otherwise redirect. RFerreira 08:24, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Comment: First of all, they have both been here for nearly 1.5 years. That is a long time for a possible expansion. It would have happened already. Secondly, again, OUTCOMES should never become involved in AfD discussions. OUTCOMES does not contain recommendations nor suggestions. It contains unverified statistics, nothing more. Just because (according to OUTCOMES) high schools are typically kept, doesn't mean they should. - Rjd0060 15:33, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete both. OUTCOMES is not policy, and high schools are not automatically notable. They must pass WP:ORG or WP:CORP like all other organizations/corporations. WP:NN is policy, though, and both of these articles could in fact be speedily deleted for failing to assert notability. CRGreathouse (t | c) 14:24, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Caribbean School OUTCOMES is a summary of what we do her in general, and it's accurate to say the HS Articles are almost always now kept, short of copyvio. The reason is that over 90% of these schools turn out to be notable if enough work is done on them, and almost WPedians have decided that it isnt worth AfD on all the borderline ones to weed out the small number that remain. But I'd delete Colegio Ponceño unless someone is willing and able to provide the most basic information, such as just where it is. DGG (talk) 11:56, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.