Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Coffee High School

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. Tikiwont (talk) 09:32, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Coffee High School

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does not meet notability Mjrmtg (talk) 15:33, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Please read WP:JNN. Your argument is not valid. Jerry talk ¤ count/logs 04:21, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong keep - being a high school "asserts" notability. Having encylopedic sources written about the school "proves" notability. Given the Google News material available, I am confident that this school is notable enough to be kept. (By the way it does meet the proposed school notability guidelines as the criteria it must meet is High schools/secondary schools are regarded as notable unless encyclopaedic material is not available. - and the material is available. EJF (talk) 17:21, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep per ejf plus there are many articles on here that are less notable then this so this goes all of those have to go as wellOo7565 (talk) 17:57, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep per EJF explanation. Coffee4me (talk) 00:50, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment Please do not present the WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument or the WP:ALLORNOTHING argument. There is no possibility of simultaneously nominating for deletion several thousand articles which do not meet our guidelines for notability. We only see a hundred or so a day, which really cannot keep up with the ability to create more articles which are vanispamcruftisements. The end result would be a constant lowering of the quality of the average article, as each poor article is used to justify the next poor article. See WP:ORG or the proposed guideline WP:SCL.Edison (talk) 18:06, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep Keep per previous AFD outcomes that have generally found high schools to be notable, per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Common outcomes#Education. A high school is an important institution in its region, and through scholastic or athletic excellence, or even through scandal, it may have statewide or national notability. A Google News search [1] shows several promising news article, most, sadly behind paywall. Some are for a like-named school in Alabama (this one is in Georgia). There are a number of article in major papers about athletics at the school: coaches coming and going, athletes from the school being recruited by colleges, games: Atlanta Journal-Constitution , Dec 28, 1986; Daily Reflector, Nov 21, 2000; Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Feb 3, 1994; Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Jan 23, 1985; Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Mar 30, 1994; Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Oct 9, 1995. Like any high school with much of an athletic program, this one got press coverage. The "internal" sources can be used to supply encyclopedic detail about the school. Edison (talk) 18:37, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
  • DELETE as it fails to show it's notability which it must do per WP:Notability. It cannot be notable just because it's there. That's WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Subject must assert notability, therefore it must be deleted. We don't need no stinkin FUR!! 18:57, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Please modify your signature to resemble your username. Thank-you. Jerry talk ¤ count/logs 04:28, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. No high school is notable because is high school. Yopie 19:21, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep While this discussion is percolating, my recollection is that current policy is to favor articles about high schools as being inherently notable, while middle and elementary schools would have to demonstrate notability beyond educating thousands of people. Even without the baseball player as a notable alumnus, it's got 2,000 students at present and it's the lone public high school in the county. Strangely enough, if you proposed to delete the article about an unincorporated town in the county (say West Green, Georgia), you'd have all sorts of people rushing in to protect the little town as being notable. Why this logic doesn't apply to a high school is beyond me--the people who love names on the map never weigh in on discussions about schools. As an alternative to deletion, this Coffee may need to be poured, perhaps in decaffinated form, into the article about Coffee County, Georgia Mandsford (talk) 21:04, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep Per Edison. High schools are almost certainly notable, especially one of this size and being the only one in the county.68.40.58.255 (talk) 01:23, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep The article is already imjproved. It's not that High Schools are magically notable. It's the fact that any high school with 2K people per year will be covered by reliable sources and can be improved. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cube lurker (talk • contribs) 02:17, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Weak keep The article should be improved however to emphasize the nobility of the topic. Stephenchou0722 (talk) 02:24, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment: It's not that secondary schools are inherently notable, it's that the collective experience of Wikipedia is that enough coverage can be found for just about every secondary school, to the point that you can presume that any given one is. Yes, it needs sources, but the odds are close enough to one that they can be found when someone gets to it. And per official policy, articles should grow at their own pace. —Quasirandom (talk) 03:35, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep Article as it stands makes claims of notability supported by reliable sources and should be further expanded. Alansohn (talk) 13:06, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep - As Edison pointed out, sources do exist about this school and its claims to notability are supported by sources. Consensus is generally that high schools do not get deleted. --Oakshade (talk) 01:57, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep - All the discussion I've read (and at this point it's in the thousands of school articles) points to high schools always being able to assert notability. Every secondary school gets some kind of press coverage, the vast majority have a few notable alumni. Just because the article is small, does not mean that the school is not notable and when it comes dows to it, we don't delete articles just because they're not good enough for GA status yet. Adam McCormick (talk) 19:01, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. —Camaron | Chris (talk) 16:59, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep. Plenty of reliable sources available. See GoogleNews for example. DoubleBlue (Talk) 17:12, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep ALL HIGH SCHOOLS ARE NOTABLE. This one in particular because it makes claims of notability supported by reliable sources. Jerry talk ¤ count/logs 04:28, 3 March 2008 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.