Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Coast Guards of Australia

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep (move it if you want to). - Bobet 10:59, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Coast Guards of Australia

An article existing only to bemoan the lack of an Australian counterpart to the United States Coast Guard.--cj | talk 11:20, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

• Hmmm. Hogwarts doesn't exist. Nor does phlogiston. I see what you mean though, this seems to be an article describing an organisation, which article is only there to say "there is no such organisation". I can see an argument for keeping this one but renaming it something which wouldn't imply that it was the name of an extant organisation. Something along the lines of Australian coastguard services (lowerrcase on "coastguard" to emphasise that it's not an organisation per se) or Coastguards in Australia. Keep and rename. Tonywalton  | Talk 11:54, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
  • I feel it was clear what my original rationale meant, even if it was semantically ambigious. Nevertheless, I've refactored it. Coast protection in Australia is undertaken by the Australian Defence Force.--cj | talk 12:07, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and as per WP:NFT ST47 11:55, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
  • I can't see where that comes from. The article states (in paraphrase) that "there is no Coast Guard service in Australia which is analogous to the US Coast Guard", and gives apparently-verifiable refernces about what bodies fulfil the services that the US Coast Guard performs. Which bit of this was made up in school? Tonywalton  | Talk 11:59, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - it's an essay about something that just does not exist in australia - 202.6.138.34 12:52, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
• The article is a sub-article of coast guard that covers the various coast guards in Australia, just as do the various other sub-articles for other countries, in a single article. It's currently not much more than a stub. It's definitely expandible, and its verifiable. Keep. Uncle G 13:41, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. All the other articles for other countries are actually for individual institutions. This article, while it could be turned into something not completely useless, currently has sections about two organisations and one suggested organisation. The two organisations are linked by having similar purposes, but really could have separate articles. The ALP proposed Coast Guard (which is not a current proposal) is only linked to the others by the fact that uses the name Coast Guard, following the US usage of the term, rather than that established by the AVCG in Australia. I don't see any need for a page linking the three sections (and/or info about the Coastwatch division of the Customs service) together in one page. JPD (talk) 14:33, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep or move/merge somewhere, verifiable. JYolkowski // talk 16:22, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and rename as per suggestion above. Park3r 19:43, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep expand and cleanup. Important topic as this issue has been discussed at the past two Australian elections including in leaders debates and it is odds on to receive mention in the next one. Needs reference to volunteer organisations. Capitalistroadster 03:02, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions. -- Capitalistroadster 03:02, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep -- definitely needs cleanup. I even know a (volunteer) Australian coast guard. Refer http://www.coastguard.com.au/- Longhair 11:48, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, expand and cleanup for the same reasons as Capitalistroadster. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 13:57, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - but expand and clean up. (JROBBO 13:24, 21 August 2006 (UTC))
• Keep -- but move to one of the above suggested names (Coastguards in Australia?) Garrie 00:38, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom.--Peta 04:53, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.